There’s good news and bad news for folks who’ve been waiting to shell out $1,500 to buy Motorola’s new Razr smartphone with a foldable OLED display.
The bad news is that Motorola has postponed the release of the phone. The good news is that it’s doing so because demand for the phone had been higher than expected, so the company is delaying the launch in order to make sure it has enough supply to meet that demand.
The Motorola Razr is basically the modern version of a classic Razr flip phone. But instead of a display on one side and a keypad on the other, the new Razr has a single 6.2 inch, 2142 x 876 pixel flexible plastic OLED display that folds in half when you close the phone to slide it into your pocket.
There’s also a second 2.7 inch, 800 x 600 pixel OLED display that you can see without flipping the phone open, which means you can view notifications and respond to messages by touch or voice.
Other features include a Qualcomm Snapdragon 710 processor, 6GB of RAM, 128GB of storage, a fingerprint reader, a 16MP primary camera and 5MP selfie camera, a 2,510 mAh battery, and a 15 watt USB Type-C charger.
Motorola had originally planned to begin taking pre-orders on December 26th and promised to ship the phone in January.
Now it’s unclear exactly when you’ll be able to throw your money at the new phone, but in a statement to The Verge, a Motorola representative says the company does “not anticipate a significant shift from our original availability timeline,” suggesting it could still ship in early 2020.
It’s worth noting that Samsung also postponed the launch of its Galaxy Fold smartphone with a folding OLED display earlier this year — but that delay was due to design issues identified by early reviewers. Motorola’s statement doesn’t mention any mechanical problems or other reasons for its delay.
Glad to see OEMs trying new things again. Or is it old things in different ways for this? Anyway, this and the leaked Samsung one are interesting as someone who got an iPhone SE because it’s small and comfortably fits in any pocket (even my back pants pocket when I need to). Also, I like headphone jacks. Maybe those will come back in a different way too?
Hopefully, these become popular and the prices go down on future models.
sorry these foldable phones seem like a good idea but they are like the same price as a decent used car lol
I can remember when my wife wanted an original RAZR phone. Hot pink. That phone went bad within 2 years. Now she and her friends are all iphone users. I don’t think this phone appeals to the original RAZR target market.
The original razr sold well past 100 million units, so, no, of course this isn’t that. As to a target market, there wasn’t one. It was too many different types of people, myself included, and I’ve never owned an iAnything or anything hot pink.
Where this might work and find a decent install base, after these outrageous folding screen prices come down, is with people who’d prefer a less gargantuan phone. How many people that applies to is hard to say, but it’s not like moto is turning away mass market users, they can’t compete on flagships with apple and samsung, so they need niches. Moto G budget devices have kept them in the smartphone business, but were this to work, it might provide a much needed dose of profitability.
Yeah. People complain that phone designs are too boring and then they complain then someone tried something new.
It’s hard to innovate from a design that’s been converging for years (for good reason), and it involves taking risks.
Yes, but most of the time those complaints are warranted.
The OEMs aren’t listening, and/or, they do not care. Smartphone manufacturers have gotten worse and worse over the years, by opting for designs that prioritise marketing, followed by forced accessory sales, then to restrict refurbishing, and lastly adding some Planned Obsolescence.
For instance;
Why is the front display curved?
Why is the back made from Fragile Glass?
Why have they removed Headphone Jack, microSD, IrDa, etc etc ?
Why have devices become much more efficient, but battery life is equal/worse?
Why is the Battery permanently sealed?
Why is the Display now structurally secured to the mid-frame?
Why is the Screen with a Hole and Weird Aspect Ratio?
Why are customers stuck with poor software update policies?
…does any of that sound like “innovative” phone design to you?
Do you think Apple, Samsung, Huawei, that they want you to have a phone that lasts a long-time, is easily fixed, has all the features you need, and has upto date software?? Not really!!
They prefer you to be enticed by their advertisements, spend extra money to buy some accessories, undergo expensive repairs only by them, and after some time they want you to replace your device with one of their new ones. These are very good for business/profit, but very anti-consumer practices.
I enjoy your posts genuinely and Im not trying to come after you or anything but I worked in a corporate location of the largest carrier in the US for just shy of a decade (from the first text send capable devices until LTE) and I can tell you from an INSANE amount of first hand experience, you don’t know what you’re talking about on most of these points.
1. Because until we nail down auto 3d or holographics, what other innovation is there other then making the screen bigger, higher dpi or of course, folding… the curve does have some function for some folks and maybe more to the point there are way more non curve screens then curved.
2. Because you can’t wirelessly charge with a metal back and Ill take glass over plastic anyway of the week.
3. All 3 features listed, while I personally value, simply are not utilized by enough people to keep them in the device, taking up z space….and I mean c’mon, how many people even knew their devices had irDa until they were bored scrolling through their app drawer and saw “TV Remote”. Every fraction of a MM counts at this point, this is also the reason for the sealed batteries. Mobile audiophiles are going to have a better device to listen to their libraries then a phone and I feel most folks would rather have larger, stereo speakers in their device then the capability to use a wired headset. Ill note that PERSONALLY I like having a headphone jack but the reality is, they almost always have to go due to space.
4. Because our devices are now RIDICULOUSLY faster then they were and are now pushing waaaaaaaaaay more pixels, pushing bigger speakers and don’t even get me started on all the software witchcraft the camera apps are doing now…… the fact the battery life stays around the same generation to generation is amazing, truly amazing.
5. See # 3 above, every fraction of a MM counts.
6. Increases overall phone strength and is also due to device slimming and integrated touch sensors, eventually the current still several ply screens will be down to 1 integrated unit.
7. Until we get a better under screen camera setup for the IMO, not necessary front camera, its either the hole, or the notch. As for the AR, I have no idea other then most likely panel yields.
8. I dunno exactly what you mean by this, the roughly 20-25% of folks on iPhones seem to be taken care of ok. Are there any Galaxy S devices that haven’t gotten updates to about 3yrs out? I can’t think of any. I know the Pixels are good to go as well. Its true many of the cheapy Android devices and several of the LG flagships have had some issues with update support but Id also point out that most android devices can be used with 3rd party ROMs, You have to remember these devices have an expected reasonable service life and most people treat their phones about as good as they do their TV remotes, which is to say horribly.
Sure they do, but what exactly is a long time? half a decade?
I don’t see how your last paragraph makes any sense, aside from, IMO a fully reasonable expectation of being your only warranty service provider (if you want to let Julio down next to the Wetzels Pretels in the mall work on your $1300 device, more power to ya). It seems like a more then reasonable business model to operate on. No one forces you to buy new chargers anymore at this point, a case is always your option….I don’t see any real anti consumerism there except maybe that they still include a basically minimum level charger for the iPhones, although Samsung and other Droid makers do include fast chargers.
Ill agree though there is still much to be done to improve things but the economics of reality come into play and the fact that EVERY SINGLE device that MIGHT fit the bill (several modular devices and numerous semi vaporware devices on crowdsourcing/funding scam websites) of what you describe, ie last a long time, easy to fix, has the features you want…..all of them, have failed, and not even failed after changing the game or anything, failed without a notice of damn near any consumer. With most consumer aspects of our modern lives becoming “services” instead of items to be owned, cell phones included, the iPhone Forever or whatever its called and its Samsung counterpart have been around for at least 4 years now and to many people is a great option.
Personally I 100% believe (can’t stress that enough) iPhones have something of a semi random “kill bit” in their software once they are of a certain age that every software update acts as a sort of internal dice roll that if you fail, greatly increases power draw (i suspect keeps the CPU cycling non stop), that persists after a new OEM battery swap, to more or less force you into an upgrade situation. The only time I can recall anyone being FORCED to upgrade was when AMPS, the analog network was “turned off” for consumers and we went “all digital” and even then, everyone who still fervently held on to their analog devices and bag phones were given 100% FREE new digital devices, with car chargers and cases, with no contract extension required, granted this was a move by the carrier and not the manufacturers in any way but it stands as an example of pretty solid PRO consumer choices by what is, IMO, a soulless corporation.
This guy gets me! Nice post.
You’re actually backing up Kangal’s point. Your first point is that phone manufacturers keep “innovating” by providing changes and gimmicks no one asked for and make phones worse to use. And why? To keep driving sales from people who crave novelty. Curved edges were popular because of looks and they make phones more fragile, but you say they provide functionality that SOME people use, yet the headphone jack, which plenty of people use, you say is ditched to reclaim space because only SOME people use it. The entire basis of your counterpoints is that phones must continue to get thinner. Some users and even pro reviewers have said for years now that phones were thin enough or even too thin. They keep making them thinner before we have the choice and they tell us the market has decided. Apple started sealing the batteries in these things long before space was an issue. Apple did it, everyone else followed, then they tell us the market has decided. Same with the headphone jacks. The flagship phones are bought for specs, yet they use sales of those to justify making phones worse at all levels of the market. They tell us the market has decided before they give us real choice.
To illustrate the absurdity of the smartphone market. As soon as it was rumored for Apple to have a notch, a whole bunch of OEMs either tried to beat Apple out of the gate, or be ready almost immediately after. I know Essential was first, but it was the usual following of Apple that drove the trend. They were putting notches on everything before customers asked for it and when bezels were already small. And many people thought the notches were ugly from the beginning, but nearly every manufacturer had to do it as soon as they could. Also, I remember a few years ago, the professional reviewers were constantly complaining about glass-backed phones. There was a push for phones to be metal. Then, when OEMs listened, there was a push to go back to glass because of wireless charging, even though that had been around for years.
You might have misread my post somehow because I most certainly did not make that point. I explained on a per point basis as to logical and rational reasoning (at least in my opinion) behind the noted points. Im not saying the main drive for curved screens was functionality, Im saying until the tech matures for what is obviously and clearly the next big step in displays across damn near anything with a display (auto 3d/holographics) that there is only so many things to try and whats bad about trying new things? Curved screens rant the standard nor are they in ANY danger of being so. The bulk of people DONT use the headset jack though, they don’t. SOME people do, absolutely, but they have been a minority for years now. Just because you see a few people on Youtube talking about missing it or a few people on the bus that have wires dangling…..granted its an internet anecdote, but Ive seen it with my own eyes for I couldn’t even start to express how many devices and people…once Bluetooth 2.1 headsets hit and things started to sound and work good, it was over…..done……wired was on life support waiting for its plug to be finally pulled and BT 2.1 was it, and thats saying NOTHING about AirPods and their like. I mean walk down the street of a large city where you might see some a good cross section of folks, Id put cash money down that you’d see more BT then wires. I don’t see many if any one complaining about the day and night improvement on built in speakers, the increase in haptic ability or even the better water incursion resistance. Devices that are expected to be carried with you for most of the day, they due indeed tend to evolve into thinner, smaller devices, so yes they “must” get thinner or smaller or even fold like no one was asking for…..because who wants to lug more then last years model…..sure there are some edge cases but they are few and between I assure you…….and the sales numbers seem to clearly reflect that. Who exactly were the whole bunch of OEMs rushing to put notches? I think i recall like 1 maybe 2 chinese firms that did, but I know Samsung, who is by far and away the biggest, didn’t, nor did LG, Google, Moto etc etc. I think that perhaps chinas basically giving zero Fs about copyright, and their seeming full acceptance of clearly obvious knock off products may have some impact on certain companies desire to follow the profit juggernaut that is Apple…….as opposed to trying to keep up with features they think we want. There was ZERO push, from the industry or the market that I witnessed to go from glass to metal, Im not sure where you came up with that but I don’t recall anyone flip flopping on back material due to glass being too fragile. If you didn’t want the glass backed Galaxy, they had the Active for you……but despite a non glassed back Galaxy was available for a few years, they stopped making the Active, I wonder why if so many people didn’t want glass backs? Curved edges do not inherently make the device more fragile beyond having more glass exposed perhaps so again, not sure where this came from. Definitely do not want this to devolve into does Apple innovate or give us s**t year over year, but that can be a whole thread/website of its own, Apple was far from the first to seal the battery, they did not “innovate” that though they did express its value perhaps better then most by giving us a sleeker package and I do think was the first to due so for the entirety of their lineup. Really I think it comes down to 1 or even 2 companies can’t be everything to everyone, and there CERTAINLY is not “1 device to rule them all” until we get neural interfaces ala Johnny Mnemonic (HIT ME!) and I think that there is a little bit of salt if the new “must have” device doesn’t have XYZ feature that YOU need/want….yet you’d sure love to have the device like every other Jones, but I feel there are more then enough devices and makers currently on the market to fit damn near anyones needs and listen to them if they do not currently fit.
-What’s wrong with trying new things? That depends on each case. There’s plenty wrong when those new things are limited in functionality, or create new problems. One of those new problems is fragility of curved screens. Having more glass exposed is enough to likely increase fragility. On top of that, it makes it more difficult to protect the screen as effectively with cases and screen protectors. What is the real benefit to curved screens other than people like the “bubble” look? There are big downsides to it.
-Phones can only get so thin and so light before that causes problems. If they manage to make the phones wafer thin, you’ll have plenty of bending or snapping. Or it would require expensive materials to be viable. Or maybe the phone can be in a case that makes it thick again. That would be misguided innovation. Is 6mm not thin enough? 4mm? Who is saying their phone is still too thick? Making phones thinner made sense several years ago. That can only go so far. And I’ll take a 6mm or 9mm phone and a bigger battery than a 2mm phone. Making them thinner at this point has no benefit for ease of carrying these things around. Every phone I’ve had fit into my pockets just fine.
-You say Apple was far from the first to seal the battery. Are you referring to PDAs? I don’t know about those. Same with Blackberry. But Apple gets credit for having the first modern smartphone, and the iphone has never had a user-replaceable battery. So I’d say they’ve been influential on that, and that’s a bad thing.
-You are incorrect about notches. I’m not sure there are any OEMs that didn’t have at least one notch phone. Samsung had at least one model. I’m not sure if that was just in certain markets, but they had one. But you seem to have missed the rest. LG had notches across much of their line on major models. Motorola did the same thing. Even Google had a huge notch on the Pixel 3XL. That was just a year ago. The whole industry was trying to make that happen.
Ok so again, curved glass doesn’t make the device more fragile and its an extreme stretch to say it does simply due to more exposed glass. I already stated clear benefits to it, just because it doesn’t benefit you or me, is 100% irrelevant. And again, curved screens are still the far minority. So basically, your opinion.
Yes phones can only get so thin but you don’t speak for everyone in what you’d rather have and rather not have nor when thin is thin enough, I look at the market, even if I don’t agree with it. We have already had bending and snapping with “Bendgate” and others and that has seemingly been rectified with new designs. Its doesn’t matter what materials are required to make something work, if the consumer wants it, someone will make it, and they will pay. Did many consumers cry out for Apple to use sapphire glass cover lens? No, and they don’t care what it is as long as it stays scratch free. So more opinions here.
Another huge stretch to hang the sealed battery as a negative innovation on Apple. You say its a bad thing, I say Ill take the size, strength and water ingress improvements over being able to swap a battery if need be, which ill also say has ALWAYS been a small minority of use cases…Im not saying for people that have had a dead battery at any point and would have benefitted from the ability to swap, Im saying the people that actually bought secondary batteries and secondary chargers for those batteries, which is a whole different group of cats. But against the original point of all of this discussion it doesn’t really matter as we are arguing pure opinions at this point.
Im still not sure where you’re getting that there is any PUSH for notches as an innovation or otherwise. Is anyone touting their notch as a feature? Sorry but to me having 1 or 2 devices out of a much, often much MUCH larger product stack, does not equate to market push or consumer desire. Everyone made 3D TVs for like 1 year too, curved screens also….Ill leave that there. Im not talking about anything other then a notch (like a hole or pop out arm) trying to say its a “better” solution then the notch…but actually saying “new for 2019, NOTCH!!!” Again, nothing more then 1 technology not being quite caught up to another technology. Devices seem to have been embracing smaller bezels and more screen to body size ratio as a market whole for like 2 decades now or so. Under the screen cameras are here and do function but they are not where they need to be for prime time adoption. Would you think it wise for a company to sit on there hands with screen size and tech that the market seems to want, and wait till the camera folks get their stuff sorted? No, you wouldn’t. You’d maybe be like most companies and try a few different options. Im still not seeing total or even near notch adoption by anyone who makes more then 1 or 2 devices. And there are still flagship devices sans notch or notch alternative and use traditional tiny bezels still, its all evolution based on the techs capabilities and the markets desires. The future of tech in this regard has been decided for us, I mean lets be honest here, looking at the tech we have and emerging, realistic tech coming down the pipe, other then either Tony Starks single piece of glass holographic device from the scene in the senate in Iron Man 2, or a neural interface ala The Matrix or Johnny Mneumonic, where exactly do you think our phone devices are going to/even could evolve into? Is everyone going to want that? Of course not, but there will still be other options for a long time to come.
Unless Im taking it wrong, a lot of what you’re saying sounds like we shouldn’t make 120″ TVs because it can’t fit in your house and uses far to much power, we shouldn’t make electric cars because you like in central Wyoming 300 miles from anything and they cause far to much battery waste, we shouldn’t make 32 core CPUs because all you do is play Fortnite.
Sorry “dude”, I also enjoy your posts, but on this topic you are wrong on so many levels. I will give you fair warning, my reply is very long, but this is the condensed version. I’ve been a keen observer of the Superphone Market since the iPhone, and have seen my fair share of innovations, trends, and marketing in that time, so I believe I’m talking from experience.
Now, curved screens can be divided into two groups. There’s the 2.5D curved displays, that’s when the screen is flat but the last 5mm’s are curved. If you install a Glass Protector, it will only cover 85% of the screen, it will look bad, and users will want to remove it after a brief period. There are some “pre-curved” protectors and they’re not good. So either you risk a drop/crack and go nude, or you use a Plastic Protector which feels sticky (and no drop protection), or you use a thick case that provides a thick lip to the front or even it’s own plastic face. Either way, this is a change that is for the worse, as it detracts from practicality.
Then there’s the Heavy Curved displays, that’s when the screen curves in the last 10mm’s or more. There’s no Glass Protectors for these, and the “pre-curved” protectors do not adhere well (I can explain why, but it’s off topic). You can buy UV-kits which use a lower quality Protector that binds to the display, but these are either expensive, can damage your phone, or lose their adhesion after a few days/weeks. Again, Plastic Protectors are an option, but only protect for scratching and not drops (plus they feel sticky). To protect these devices, you need a bulky case, or one with a face/wallet attachment.
Now you make the case that Curved Screens are not more fragile, that they’re in fact durable to the average user. That is Factually wrong. The tidal wave of phones I have seen, and still see everyday out in public, which have a cracked screen are proof. I firmly believe in physics, and Glass is Glass, and glass breaks. Seen the new CyberTruck demonstration? So, ALL GLASS FRAGILE, yes, even the FLAT DISPLAY ones. However, the Flat Displays can be easily protected with a Glass Protector. Curved Screens lack the ability to use Glass Protectors AND they further expose the display to damage (sdelfin is right).
So now that we’ve established that Glass is Fragile, and being attached to a relatively dense/heavy object, and used very often in the day, and in harsh terrain… is a recipe for cracking. And the proof is out there. Then why the hell would you put glass ON THE OTHER SIDE ?!? It makes no logical sense. Wireless Charging is not a problem, and is an excuse. I mean let’s be honest, it is an excuse. Firstly, you don’t need Wireless Charging or perhaps even want it (it’s slow, and heats the device). Secondly, even if you wanted to have that feature you can go about adding it WITHOUT using a glass back. I mean there are other options out there, like Aerospace-grade Polycarbonate… it’s probably the most underrated build material out there. Or if you wanted to be “luxurious” then there’s Military-Ballistics Kevlar, or a whole range of other Woven materials (Carbon Fibre?). Heck, you can actually use a Metal Backplate and still use Wireless Charging (just put the coils underneath the display!). And here’s the real kicker, there are MILLIONS of phones out there with a CRACKED backplate. And that compromises the ingress protection, so there goes your argument for that. And outside those devices, what are people doing? They’re using a thick case! So there goes all your arguments about style or space-saving. What’s the point of saving 2mm’s if you’re going to be wasting 10mm’s! Illogical !
So why would these BILLIONAIRE corporations decide to use a Glass Sandwich design? I told you earlier: marketing. They don’t care about the Objective Truth, they care about the Subjective Feeling. And you know what, it works, they’re selling heaps of these devices. But for those of us who are more critical, you’re telling us to Vote with our Wallet. The unfortunate thing is we CANNOT. There are no options for us. That Samsung Active phone, yeah it’s only exclusive to AT&T so some/most Americans can’t get it, and even worse for everyone else. We cannot buy the latest Sony, Samsung, LG, or OnePlus, but without the compromises these companies have decided for us. And for good reason too, these companies are for-profit, and they want to sell to the consumer who will be influenced by their marketing, not critical thinkers like us who judge a product on its merits and have no loyalty to brands.
You’re strawmanning the point about Thickness. Yes, it’s part about durability, but its also about portability. Imagine a modern smartphone that’s an impressive 7mm’s thin. Now, would you really care if it was actually 9mm’s? No! You’re care for it will be very limited because both fit in your hands and in your pocket quite similarly. But now let me propose, that the 9mm phone has a battery life that is +50% longer. Oh, now I have your attention. I’m positive this was sdelfin’s point. It doesn’t even have to be about a larger battery, that extra space can be used to craft a better designed phone and include all the features you desire. So now there’s no excuse to removing the IrDa, microSD, Headphone Jack, etc etc. In fact, someone proved this true by adding a Headphone Jack to the iPhone 7. Apple said it was impossible, that there was no space in there. You believed Apple. It’s not true, and many don’t believe them. And we have tried Voting with our Wallets, but it seems all of these companies are set in removing them. Google, OnePlus, Samsung all criticised Apple, and now they’ve copied them. They say “less is more”, and that’s not always true. To a large extent, they are following the trends set by the market leaders: Apple (and Samsung).
The push for notches is not a myth. I won’t go into too much about this, but it really was Apple setting a trend, being criticised for it, mocked by the competition, and eventually joined by the competition. It went from big notches, to small notches, to punch-holes, and moving cameras. Eventually we will get to under-screen Selfie Cams. So yes, like the fads of 3D TVs and Curved TVs, we might get back to appropriate designs BUT the journey has been an unnecessary eyesore! It was all to say “me too” and do some marketing. Have you seen the Meizu 16s, it has a tiny bezel and no notch!? Even better would be to have a Slim Bezel for ergonomics, and to put in some Front-Firing Stereo Loudspeakers in there like we see with the ASUS RoG Phone 2.
As for sealed batteries, I have strong feelings about this. I’ve been a road-warrior for a while, and there was nothing quite as satisfactory as having an extra battery or two with me. Just plop in a new one, and within seconds you have a fully-charged phone. They removed this feature for the sake of Waterproofing. Here’s the thing, it is difficult, but it is possible to have a phone that’s waterproof/submergible AND has a removable battery. Rarely these Billionaire corporations have attempted to even research such a thing. And the worst part is, 99% of phones these days have moved to a Sealed Battery, but only 5% have opted for ingress protection. Again, you lost something and gained nothing. Yes, it was a change. But it was a demotion. Between a Removable Battery and Waterproofing, the former has more advantages, but I see the appeal for the latter. So I firmly believe there should be TWO phones: one that champions substance (practicality, functionality etc)… and the other that champions style (design, luxury etc).
That last dribble of a paragraph you said is rubbish. Pure rubbish. There’s no need to go down that path of absurdity when presenting your arguments. It’s nothing but logical fallacies and straw-manning. We are all for more choices. We’re not saying don’t make 120in TVs, or don’t make BEV cars, or server-grade processors. No those products have their niche. We just want the average consumer to be catered for as well. And maybe even better products than that to cater to the enthusiasts. Because what we have right now are practices that are catering to their Marketing and Accounting Departments.
I will follow up with another comment detailing of two flagship devices, but those that cater for different audiences. I hope I wasn’t too blunt with you in this comment, as you can tell I’m quite passionate when it comes to Lili-computers : )
As promised, here’s my follow-up comment, enjoy 😀
So remember how I said there are different users. Some see their phone as fashion. Others see their phone as a tool. For that reason, I think there is actually two “best phones”. The question is really; what do you prefer?
Firstly is the Stylish and Futuristic:
179 grams and 179 x 79 x 7.9mm dimensions
7.49 inch 21:9 screen
+1440p-Pentile SAM-OLED (deepest blacks)
144Hz Active Sync display (fluid animations)
794 nits Mobile-HDR compatible
Display Rounded Corners
Almost No Bezels (2mm each side)
Underscreen dual selfie camera
Vibrational Face Mono Speaker
Ultrasonic fingerprint scanner
Triple rear camera (ultrawide, regular, zoom)
eSIM and microSD, no IrDa blaster
Standard Headphone Jack and USB 3.1-TypeC
Limited Support for Video out, OTG, and Connections
Home Console via Xbox One controller connection (needs purse/backpack, not pocketable)
Shiny exterior, styling and renders
Thin (6mm) phone body (front to back), with thick (8mm) sideframe
Backplate and Frontplate of transparent flat plastic (shockproof)
Protection via Curved Tempered Glass for back and front
Stainless Steel sideframe
Submersible IP68 waterproofing
4,179mAh non-removable battery
Convenient Super Fast Charging (60W)
Maximum Density Internals, monolithic design (non-refurbishable)
Skinned FlymeOS Android (unlockable bootloader)
Probably retails for USD $947 ??
Secondly is the Rugged and Practical:
200 grams and 150 x 80 x 8.0mm dimensions
6.10 inch 16:9 screen
1080p-RGBW LCD-IPS (no burn-in)
60Hz Refresh Rate (much better battery life)
1,000 nits HDR10+ supported
Display Square Corners
Symmetrical Top-Bottom Slim Bezels (8mm)
Sensors and Selfie embedded inside bezels
Front-firing stereo loudspeakers
Rear fingerprint scanner
Single Main camera (large sensor)(attachable lenses for ultrawide, macro, zoom)
DualSIM-microSD slot and IrDa blaster
QuadDAC Headphone Jack and ThunderBolt-3 port
Wide Support for External Dock for Charging, HDMI, Ethernet, Aux, and Host-OTG
Handheld Console with dedicated JoyCon physical attachment (pocketable gamepad)
Matte and chamfered exterior, rugged photographs
Thick (9mm) phone body (front, side, back)
Backplate of Military Kevlar (non-fragile), Frontplate of Gorilla Glass 6
Protection via Tempered Glass for front, optional bumper case for back
Aluminium sideframe
Non-submersible (IP66) Splash water resistance
5,000mAh User Removable Battery
Healthy-Battery Charging (20W)
High Density Internals, Modular Design (USB port, Headphone port, Speakers, Cameras)
Stock AndroidOne OS (can flash Alternate OS like Jolla SailfishOS)
Probably retails for USD $800 ??