Microsoft really wants you to run Windows 10. So while the company continues to offer security updates and bug fixes for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (and Windows Vista for a few more weeks), the company announced last year that it would not support those operating systems for devices with the latest Intel and AMD chips.

Up until now that’s basically just meant that if you were running Windows 8.1 or earlier on a PC with an Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Bristol Ridge or Ryzen processor you wouldn’t get officially supported drivers.

But now Microsoft is going a step further: Windows Update won’t work on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 computers with the most recent Intel or AMD chips.

Specifically, users attempting to download updates through Windows Update may get a message that says:

Unsupported Hardware
Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows and you won’t receive updates.

Microsoft says that’s because only it will only support the latest Intel and AMD chips for Windows 10. And that probably won’t be an issue for most users, since most people upgrade their CPU and operating system at the same time: when they buy a new computer.

But folks who may build their own computers and prefer Windows 7 to Windows 10 for one reason or another are now in a position where they have to choose between using an older processor or giving up on automatic updates.

Or you could just skip Windows altogether and switch to Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, or another GNU/Linux operating system.

via Hacker News

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20 replies on “Have a Kaby Lake/Ryzen CPU and Windows 7 or 8? Say goodbye to Windows Updates”

  1. @zdanee, “TL;DR: Windows 10 is great for home use. I use it at home. I’m using it right now. But it needs drastic changes before I start to trust it on a mission-critical place.”

    Why would you EVER install Windows 10 in ANY work-place? It will waste your employee’s time (aka your money) with advertisements, and spy on you to boot!

    Note, I can’t reply to comments here because No-Script detects a click-jacking attempt when I click thr “I’m not a robot” box 🙁 But that’s only when REPLYING to a comment, not making a new comment.

  2. Use this registry key to stop windows 10 from automatically rebooting after update.

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


  3. Just leave support for the older operating systems. Geez its not going to hurt. People like what they are good at, and i know plenty of people that would love to stay with winXP and still get support

  4. Honestly this is MS trying to FORCE people into using this crap that is called Windows 10.
    I beta tested it and loved it before it actually came out, its a flaming POS now and honestly has broken every computer I have installed it on.
    I don’t want a version of windows that I have to reinstall multiple times per year, and nevermind the forced updates and bugged drivers that just come break your computer and there is literally nothing you can do about it.
    Windows 10 is a serious cancer and a horrible OS plagued with MS inbuilt malware and keyloggers.

  5. Until you can disable the auto-reboot in Win10, I refuse to install it in an office environment. You go out for a coffee and when you come back, you can see Windows closing your unsaved documents in an attempt to reboot itself. Yes, I know, save often, but tell that to all the computer-illiterate who actually work on these machines, that sorry, your excel sheet and the report due in 10 minutes is toast.

    1. Microsoft mentality: If you were using Office 365, it would have auto-saved for you!

      1. That might be true (I don’t use Office to know) but if you buy the full license for a computer you have access to the office suite for life, if you pay a monthly or annual subscription you only have one month or year of full access. With Windows 10 supposedly being the last Windows theoretically you could use Office 2013 or Office 2016 for 15-20 years if the computer remains in working condition that long. I still have an old computer (obviously not my main computer, good luck connecting to the internet with that thing) with what I recall was the first version of Microsoft Office on it from the mid 90’s that I could use if I connected the computer with an old parallel port printer and had the driver CD-ROM to it. I also might have some old WordPerfect for DOS floppies around here somewhere, if I had a computer with that OS on it that was from the late 80’s or early 90’s and an old dot-matrix printer from the same era that still worked I could theoretically use that word processing program. Supposedly the old WP for DOS still works on new computers with FreeDOS on it and there is a website that purports to have new printer drivers and computer code that allows the Euro symbol (created well after WP for DOS was toast as a readily used word processor) to be used with it but I don’t plan to try it nor install FreeDOS on any of my computers.

      1. A registry hack, that gets overwritten in an annual update is not a fix. I want a big ass button, that says “Do Not Reboot This Machine Until I Choose To”. I don’t want to set a timer, I don’t want to set a metered connection (only works with WiFi BTW), and definitely no registry hacks that can get overwritten without my knowledge. The other method you posted will notify you, but will also start a countdown, and if you ignore the notification, it WILL restart regardless. It’s perfectly fine if a Facebook & gaming machine reboots when it chooses to, no value lost, only annoying. But there are places where it’s absolutely unacceptable for a machine to decide to just reboot out of the blue, and Windows 10 is not suited for such places.

        BTW what is “fake rumor”? It’s either a rumor in which case it’s not yet verified, so you don’t know if it’s fake or not, or it’s not a rumor. Or did you mean fake rumor as in not a rumor, but a fact? Should I stop spreading facts?

        1. OK, you need a big button which reads, “That was easy!”

          Please, read! No, it isn’t a registry fix. And no, it doesn’t get overwritten over Updates if you had configured it properly.

          1. Until there is no option in an easily accessible way any user and my grandma can find, it’s not a ‘feature’ of windows, it’s a workaround. It’s like “hey, your house don’t have a roof!” “yeah, but I can just use an umbrella indoors when it rains”.

          2. Funny. Disabling automatic restart has been working on critical systems used on a 24-hour basis for the nurse and support staff for spinal and brain injury victims. I can’t help that you can’t figure it out. Read and re-read what I shared. You obviously are missing something crucial in the process.

        2. I am not a fan of Windows 10’s insistence on updating immediately (unless you know how to set up the computer to delay a reboot until after the end of the work day) but when I first started using a computer in the late 70’s and early 80’s it was drummed into everyone’s heads to save your work every five minutes. If people did that they wouldn’t lose that much of their document due to lack of incremental saving.

    2. While it might be irritating, it’s becoming much less of an issue all the time as apps and applications move towards autosaving every change you make. It used to be easy to lose your work when an app or the machine crashed (it happened to me more times than I can count) but you have to work quite hard to lose anything these days — especially on a scheduled reboot. Can’t remember the last time I lost anything.

      Time lost is still a pain, but again, it used to be much worse when it took several minutes just to boot up Windows.

      1. Real usecase: in a restaurant a new online ordering system. There are screens in the kitchen and the cooks see what dish they need to make, then they press a button below the screen (custom keyboard with 15 keys) and the machine prints a sticker that goes on the box of the dish. The machines are last gen Intel NUCs, and they need to be on 24/7. When a cook comes, they log on the machine with an RFID card. We couldn’t use linux, because both the printer driver and the client program is made for Windows. We ended up using Windows 8.1, and disabled updates, because Windows 10 would reboot the machines and log out the cooks in the process. We didn’t want to buy a Windows Server for this, and we tried group policies and registry hacks, but none of them were “bullet-proof” and there was no guarantee they would keep working indefinitely. There was also no benefit of Windows 10 over Windows 8.1 here.
        On the other end of the spectrum are the 1-bit office workers, I’m not paid enough to educate all of them, so if all they do is run Excel, and print, and they got used to Windows 7 but gets confused on Windows 10, I’ll install Windows 7 on their machines, even when it has inferior features and slower boot speed, because that doesn’t matter here. If the company pays for their education, and they go and learn to cope with Windows 10 and Office 2016, I’ll start installing that for them.
        Also, printers and scanners: why is it that industrial printers that have a working driver on Windows 7 won’t work on Windows 10 even when installed in compatibility mode? I will not put a working industrial printer to the trash that is worth $1000+, just because of a driver problem.
        TL;DR: Windows 10 is great for home use. I use it at home. I’m using it right now. But it needs drastic changes before I start to trust it on a mission-critical place.

        1. Funny. Disabling automatic restart has been working on critical systems used on a 24-hour basis for the nurse and support staff for spinal and brain injury victims. I can’t help that you can’t figure it out. Read and re-read what I shared. You obviously are missing something crucial in the process.

          1. And what advantage does Windows 10 have in a hospital environment over Windows 7 or 8.1? Direct X 12 support? Or that you have to throw out old equipment that don’t have working drivers anymore?

    3. Note: Unfortunately this appears to not work on Windows 10 Home, and I’m note sure of a workable solution for users of this edition.

      I posted this as an answer on another question, but as that appears to be a duplicate of this question I’ll provide it here too:

      You can edit your local group policy settings to force Windows update to only download updates, but wait for your input to install (and therefore reboot.)

      Open you start menu and type Group, then click Edit group policy

      Expand Computer Configuration Administrative Templates Windows Components Windows Update

      Local Group Policy Editor – Windows Update

      Double click Configure Automatic Updates and enable the policy, and configure it as needed.

      Configure Automatic Updates

      Head back to Windows Update and click Check for updates, once it is done click on the Advanced options

      You should see your new settings being ‘enforced.’

      Enforced Windows Update settings

      After applying this setting on a test VM, I left Windows Update open and noticed it start downloading.

      Windows Update Downloading

      When it finished downloading, you get a toast notification that there are updates and you need to install them.

      Windows Update manual install

      Note that you must click install now. Restarting or shutting down from the start menu does not appear to trigger the install process.

      More info:

      I’m not sure if editing Local Group Policy is an option in the Home edition of Windows 10, but the same result should be possible through the registry (I haven’t tested this as I used the policy method myself.) Including this in case non-pro users come looking for an answer too.

      Press Win + R and type regedit then hit Enter
      Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwarePoliciesMicrosoftWindowsWindowsUpdateAU
      (you may need to create the keys manually if they don’t exist)
      Create a new DWORD value called AUOptions and enter a value of either 2 or 3.

      2 = Notify before download
      3 = Automatically download and notify of installation
      Restart PC
      Check for updates
      Inspect Advanced Settings
      Update following Anniversary Update (1607):

      I’ve seen a lot a few comments lately from people saying this no longer works after the Anniversary Update.

      I’ve been running some tests, detailed in the two blog posts here:

      Validating Prevention of Automatic Reboots on Windows 10, Version 1607
      Update on Windows Update… Up Time
      These tests have been running for nearly three weeks and I am yet to see any forced reboots.

      In light of these results, it appears that this does still work.

      Windows 10 Professions Screenshot – 20 Days up time

      Things to keep in mind:

      I did not set any settings around Active Hours or the Reboot Options.
      DO NOT click the ‘Install now’ button within the Windows Update UI unless you’re ready to install and reboot. Once the updates are installed, there is no stopping Windows from deciding to reboot.
      Windows will nag you with Toasts, Action Center alerts and banners across your screen. As long as you don’t install the updates you’re fine (but do do them eventually.)

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