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		<title>By: artfulbobster</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-47524</link>
		<dc:creator>artfulbobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slow Internet probs on my eeePC 701 4G after installing 9.10 nbr. I have read several posts but no solution seems to be anywhere. Love the style of the interface. Agree with others that Evolution is buried now most of us use web based mail. Should I wipe it again and install Leenux?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow Internet probs on my eeePC 701 4G after installing 9.10 nbr. I have read several posts but no solution seems to be anywhere. Love the style of the interface. Agree with others that Evolution is buried now most of us use web based mail. Should I wipe it again and install Leenux?</p>
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		<title>By: artfulbobster</title>
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		<dc:creator>artfulbobster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slow Internet probs on my eeePC 701 4G after installing 9.10 nbr. I have read several posts but no solution seems to be anywhere. Love the style of the interface. Agree with others that Evolution is buried now most of us use web based mail. Should I wipe it again and install Leenux?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow Internet probs on my eeePC 701 4G after installing 9.10 nbr. I have read several posts but no solution seems to be anywhere. Love the style of the interface. Agree with others that Evolution is buried now most of us use web based mail. Should I wipe it again and install Leenux?</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40828</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Content first, formatting later.</description>
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		<title>By: Slurpy</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40820</link>
		<dc:creator>Slurpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just tried 9.10 on my brand-new 1201N, and it actually ran slower than the bloated standard Windows 7 install.  I ended up digging out a different 7 disc and doing a clean install after that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Assuming I had chosen to keep it on there (as it is on my big laptop), I would like to see a package manager that lets you choose what you do and don&#039;t want to install.  I would definitely have use of OOO, as I purchased the netbook specifically for use at school.  I haven&#039;t tried GoogleDocs, but OOO has always worked well enough for me, and since I have to be able to play friendly with my the university profs, I need good compatibility with MSOffice.  I would probably install Brasero too, as I did purchase a USB burner for use with the 1201N.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just tried 9.10 on my brand-new 1201N, and it actually ran slower than the bloated standard Windows 7 install.  I ended up digging out a different 7 disc and doing a clean install after that.</p>
<p>Assuming I had chosen to keep it on there (as it is on my big laptop), I would like to see a package manager that lets you choose what you do and don&#39;t want to install.  I would definitely have use of OOO, as I purchased the netbook specifically for use at school.  I haven&#39;t tried GoogleDocs, but OOO has always worked well enough for me, and since I have to be able to play friendly with my the university profs, I need good compatibility with MSOffice.  I would probably install Brasero too, as I did purchase a USB burner for use with the 1201N.</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40819</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Evolution is really passé. Webmail has won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Evolution is really passé. Webmail has won.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40805</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone really use evolution mail?</description>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestion - use the same / similar user interface for the package manager as the GUI user display layout.&lt;br&gt;Then the user doesn&#039;t have to try to guess what package(s) should go in a particular&lt;br&gt;empty slot of the menu - I.E: click applications &gt; office &gt; &lt;empty&gt; &gt;&gt; do some key&lt;br&gt;trigger - get the list of possible things for that slot -- I.E: skip learning all of the&lt;br&gt;package naming business.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also - include a &quot;bloatmeter&quot; connection with the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion &#8211; use the same / similar user interface for the package manager as the GUI user display layout.<br />Then the user doesn&#39;t have to try to guess what package(s) should go in a particular<br />empty slot of the menu &#8211; I.E: click applications &gt; office &gt; &lt;empty&gt; &gt;&gt; do some key<br />trigger &#8211; get the list of possible things for that slot &#8212; I.E: skip learning all of the<br />package naming business.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; include a &#8220;bloatmeter&#8221; connection with the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu-News &#8211; Your one stop for news about Ubuntu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Netbook Edition app list undergoes revision</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubuntu-News &#8211; Your one stop for news about Ubuntu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Netbook Edition app list undergoes revision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] applications that come preloaded by default just don’t make that much sense on a netbook. More here Now it looks like the Ubuntu team is stripping Brasero and a number of other programs from the list [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] applications that come preloaded by default just don’t make that much sense on a netbook. More here Now it looks like the Ubuntu team is stripping Brasero and a number of other programs from the list [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Netbookfiles.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Netbookfiles.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would vote for Openoffice to stay, you never know when you might need some offline word processing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would vote for Openoffice to stay, you never know when you might need some offline word processing.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Bob Hubba</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2010/02/ubuntu-netbook-edition-app-list-undergoes-revision.html#comment-40793</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Bob Hubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, definitely drop Evolution, which is the source of what, 75% of the updates? The Software Store is awesomely better than Synaptic &quot;for the rest of us&quot;, so keep it if we want the nongeek wog public to ever develop a taste for Linux.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eeebuntu Base is a great distro because it does not include these large and optional apps. Looking forward to EB4, coming &quot;real soon now&quot;. Jolicloud similarly lets you choose and makes updating far simpler -- no head-scratching about whether you need that obscure library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, definitely drop Evolution, which is the source of what, 75% of the updates? The Software Store is awesomely better than Synaptic &#8220;for the rest of us&#8221;, so keep it if we want the nongeek wog public to ever develop a taste for Linux.</p>
<p>Eeebuntu Base is a great distro because it does not include these large and optional apps. Looking forward to EB4, coming &#8220;real soon now&#8221;. Jolicloud similarly lets you choose and makes updating far simpler &#8212; no head-scratching about whether you need that obscure library.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The openoffice release used by Ubuntu is indeed based on &lt;a href=&quot;http://go-oo.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;go-oo.org&lt;/a&gt;, and indeed Novell is one of the main contributors on this project. But this isn&#039;t a fork, but more a shadow version or development environment where third-party developers work on new features. The problem is that the third-party developers rely on Sun to get thing&#039;s added to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;openoffice.org&lt;/a&gt;, this is why they started with go-oo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The openoffice release used by Ubuntu is indeed based on <a href="http://go-oo.org" rel="nofollow">go-oo.org</a>, and indeed Novell is one of the main contributors on this project. But this isn&#39;t a fork, but more a shadow version or development environment where third-party developers work on new features. The problem is that the third-party developers rely on Sun to get thing&#39;s added to <a href="http://www.openoffice.org" rel="nofollow">openoffice.org</a>, this is why they started with go-oo.</p>
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		<title>By: Queixa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queixa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just today I installed UNR. I had to get rid of the netbook menu interface. It really made everything very slow on my eeePC 901A. Once  I got rid of that and went back to Gnome, everything returned to normal. Then I installed the XFCE desktop, and I forgot I was on a netbook. With XFCE, everything is snappy. GPodder, Calibre, and FBReader are absolute necessities for me. And I don&#039;t need all those extra languages -- Thai and Laotian and Hindi etc. And I really dislike the Ubuntu Software Store (can only install one ap at a time) thing and just use Synaptic since the Gnome software install thing disappeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today I installed UNR. I had to get rid of the netbook menu interface. It really made everything very slow on my eeePC 901A. Once  I got rid of that and went back to Gnome, everything returned to normal. Then I installed the XFCE desktop, and I forgot I was on a netbook. With XFCE, everything is snappy. GPodder, Calibre, and FBReader are absolute necessities for me. And I don&#39;t need all those extra languages &#8212; Thai and Laotian and Hindi etc. And I really dislike the Ubuntu Software Store (can only install one ap at a time) thing and just use Synaptic since the Gnome software install thing disappeared.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suggest you try the Kubuntu Netbook Remix for a &quot;quicker&quot; experience that is very interesting (note that you need to use the &lt;crts-tab&gt; key to fly between open applications).   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that Kubuntu (and Kubuntu for Netbooks) once KDE 4 is done (and it will be much better this April and a whole TON better in October) is very interesting with very interesting options (Love that they use Gwenview as default photo viewer, can use FireFox and should be default vs elective to install later).  The potential for the whole KDE 4 user experience from a programmers perspective, is getting better every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggest you try the Kubuntu Netbook Remix for a &#8220;quicker&#8221; experience that is very interesting (note that you need to use the &lt;crts-tab&gt; key to fly between open applications).   </p>
<p>I think that Kubuntu (and Kubuntu for Netbooks) once KDE 4 is done (and it will be much better this April and a whole TON better in October) is very interesting with very interesting options (Love that they use Gwenview as default photo viewer, can use FireFox and should be default vs elective to install later).  The potential for the whole KDE 4 user experience from a programmers perspective, is getting better every day.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UNR runs perfectly fine on my EEE PC 701, so I can&#039;t see what the problem would be on a 901.  Perhaps you should file a bug.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that they should pare down the default install.  It&#039;s not about your subjective opinions on particular apps you don&#039;t like or what netbooks &quot;should&quot; be used for -- the point is &quot;less is more&quot;.   Concentrate on making a lean and mean base install and making it easy to install the rest of the apps that the user deems appropriate.   (And I think they&#039;ve already achieved the latter.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally, I&#039;d like to see them get a squashfs+union root system working, out of the box.  I&#039;d set it up so that periodically (after updates and installations) you could rebuild the squashfs image and clean out the writable union and reclaim the space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UNR runs perfectly fine on my EEE PC 701, so I can&#39;t see what the problem would be on a 901.  Perhaps you should file a bug.</p>
<p>I agree that they should pare down the default install.  It&#39;s not about your subjective opinions on particular apps you don&#39;t like or what netbooks &#8220;should&#8221; be used for &#8212; the point is &#8220;less is more&#8221;.   Concentrate on making a lean and mean base install and making it easy to install the rest of the apps that the user deems appropriate.   (And I think they&#39;ve already achieved the latter.)</p>
<p>Personally, I&#39;d like to see them get a squashfs+union root system working, out of the box.  I&#39;d set it up so that periodically (after updates and installations) you could rebuild the squashfs image and clean out the writable union and reclaim the space.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is, that the Ubuntu version of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openoffice.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OpenOffice.org&lt;/a&gt; in the Repositories that we can download if we want it is the forked version of OpenOffice (mostly built by Novell), and we don&#039;t want that either.   Too bad you can&#039;t get the non-forked version.   Oh - we don&#039;t need any MONO apps at all and we don&#039;t need Evolution either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is, that the Ubuntu version of <a href="http://www.openoffice.org" rel="nofollow">OpenOffice.org</a> in the Repositories that we can download if we want it is the forked version of OpenOffice (mostly built by Novell), and we don&#39;t want that either.   Too bad you can&#39;t get the non-forked version.   Oh &#8211; we don&#39;t need any MONO apps at all and we don&#39;t need Evolution either.</p>
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