Comments on: CULV, ION, or dual core Atom with ION? http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html Compact Computing Sat, 26 May 2012 08:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: levent http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-45421 levent Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:55:22 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-45421 Hello Brad,<br>Thank you for this review first of all. I am planning to buy either an ASUS UL20A , or HP MINI 311. I have no interest in gaming. I just want to watch 720P or 1080P MKV movies with it. Which one is more capable for that?<br><br>thx, Hello Brad,
Thank you for this review first of all. I am planning to buy either an ASUS UL20A , or HP MINI 311. I have no interest in gaming. I just want to watch 720P or 1080P MKV movies with it. Which one is more capable for that?

thx,

]]> By: levent http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-42374 levent Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:55:22 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-42374 Hello Brad,<br>Thank you for this review first of all. I am planning to buy either an ASUS UL20A , or HP MINI 311. I have no interest in gaming. I just want to watch 720P or 1080P MKV movies with it. Which one is more capable for that?<br><br>thx, Hello Brad,
Thank you for this review first of all. I am planning to buy either an ASUS UL20A , or HP MINI 311. I have no interest in gaming. I just want to watch 720P or 1080P MKV movies with it. Which one is more capable for that?

thx,

]]> By: Dave http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-42229 Dave Tue, 02 Mar 2010 03:30:01 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-42229 All this ION stuff as you call does far more than waste money, if you ever tried watching Hulu, or playing just basic RTS game to pass the time away on a train ride or sitting at starbucks unwinding you would know that. There is a segment of the market that wants better multimedia capabilities in a netbook sized package. I would also state this is not a CULV vs ION discussion as those are two different categories of hardware, that would be more accurately stated as CULV vs ATOM issue. All this ION stuff as you call does far more than waste money, if you ever tried watching Hulu, or playing just basic RTS game to pass the time away on a train ride or sitting at starbucks unwinding you would know that. There is a segment of the market that wants better multimedia capabilities in a netbook sized package. I would also state this is not a CULV vs ION discussion as those are two different categories of hardware, that would be more accurately stated as CULV vs ATOM issue.

]]> By: ChromeSushi http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41404 ChromeSushi Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:12:49 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41404 Speak for yourself Speak for yourself

]]> By: kevinkjk http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41246 kevinkjk Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:14:09 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41246 thanks thanks

]]> By: Brad Linder http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41240 Brad Linder Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:59:29 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41240 All I can tell you is that it meets my needs in a portable computer at the<br>moment. It might not be the best choice for everybody. You can check out my<br>detailed review in the reviews section. All I can tell you is that it meets my needs in a portable computer at the
moment. It might not be the best choice for everybody. You can check out my
detailed review in the reviews section.

]]> By: kevinkjk http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41239 kevinkjk Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:53:47 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41239 Thank you for responding...I was debating...I don't game either..I saw complaints on problems w/ wireless and the keyboard being flexible and the trackpad not sensitive...I have two eee, ones a 1000ha and ones a 1005ha and I have been very happy....I'm replacing a hp 12inch tablet which has been less than reliable.. the size is perfect though....<br><br>So no performance issues no quality issues?<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Kevin Thank you for responding…I was debating…I don't game either..I saw complaints on problems w/ wireless and the keyboard being flexible and the trackpad not sensitive…I have two eee, ones a 1000ha and ones a 1005ha and I have been very happy….I'm replacing a hp 12inch tablet which has been less than reliable.. the size is perfect though….

So no performance issues no quality issues?

Thanks

Kevin

]]> By: Brad Linder http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41238 Brad Linder Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:47:26 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41238 Let's put it this way... I bought a UL20A and I'm pretty happy with it. But<br>I don't use my computer for gaming, and the ul20a does cost a bit more than<br>the 1201n. Let's put it this way… I bought a UL20A and I'm pretty happy with it. But
I don't use my computer for gaming, and the ul20a does cost a bit more than
the 1201n.

]]> By: kevinkjk http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41236 kevinkjk Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:08:34 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41236 So Brad, if you had your choice for for multi tasking (documents/internet/databases) and limited graphics, would you say the su 7300 duo core is preferable over the duo atom 330? I'm debating the asus 1201n over their ul20 ...thoughts? So Brad, if you had your choice for for multi tasking (documents/internet/databases) and limited graphics, would you say the su 7300 duo core is preferable over the duo atom 330? I'm debating the asus 1201n over their ul20 …thoughts?

]]> By: kevinkjk http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-41237 kevinkjk Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:06:32 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-41237 . .

]]> By: Kangal http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-40374 Kangal Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:43:03 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-40374 In this comparison,<br>Highest score is better for all Tests performed.<br><br>It takes detailed eye and common sense to know which components of the test actually test the CPU and which ones test the GPU.<br><br>When people see this they're gonna think the ULV is slower than ASUS ION then buy it. Then they're really gonna regret it.<br><br>Bottom line is ATOM is meant to be cheap.<br>The ULV (SU7300) is supposed to give you battery life without sacrificing performance.<br><br>ATOM is gonna be in trouble when netbooks with beefed up Tegra 2 come out with Linux, probably offering same performance but more battery life in a smaller package. In this comparison,
Highest score is better for all Tests performed.

It takes detailed eye and common sense to know which components of the test actually test the CPU and which ones test the GPU.

When people see this they're gonna think the ULV is slower than ASUS ION then buy it. Then they're really gonna regret it.

Bottom line is ATOM is meant to be cheap.
The ULV (SU7300) is supposed to give you battery life without sacrificing performance.

ATOM is gonna be in trouble when netbooks with beefed up Tegra 2 come out with Linux, probably offering same performance but more battery life in a smaller package.

]]> By: Kangal http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-40373 Kangal Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:33:52 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-40373 The conclusion of this benchmark seems biased.<br>What needed to be said was:<br>The better processor is: (Cinebench Multi CPU test is relevant)<br>SU7300 (3,148), 330 Dual-Atom (1,409), N270 Atom (795).<br>The better Graphics Card is: (Cinebench OpenGL)<br>ION (1,163), GMA 4500 (689).<br><br>I'd take better processor over better graphics any day. Why? Processor affects everything including graphics, Graphics only affect graphics.<br><br>Notice the was the only one with dedicated graphics card (the ION) compared to the other integrated ones which opt for battery-life not performance.<br><br>You NEED to TEST the BATTERY LIFE.<br><br>I have a Acer Aspire 4810TG= SU7300, integrated and dedicated graphic, HD 4330 graphics card, 4GB DDR3. It can do Crysis mediocre (35fps) with medium settings, can run "8+ hrs" (my video benchmark was 5hr 49min), is 1.5kg and 14" size.<br>My dedicated video card destroys the ION, or ION2 hands-down. SO I've got the best of both worlds. As far as anyone knows, my laptop is top of the line / bleeding edge.<br>ie The most powerful Laptop you can get for its effeciency. I'd recommend my Laptop for anyone, except for Acer's cheap build-quality (touchy keyboard!!, scratch prone lid)<br>Sorry, Atom is just not as effecient yesteryear-gen device.<br><br>To be honest, I now feel like "Windows benchmarking tool" is accurate enough, all it needs is a battery life included then everyone can buy the best without being confused. BTW computer retailers have now locked away this WinBenchmark on display models as it slows the sale of some stock, they want customers confused. The conclusion of this benchmark seems biased.
What needed to be said was:
The better processor is: (Cinebench Multi CPU test is relevant)
SU7300 (3,148), 330 Dual-Atom (1,409), N270 Atom (795).
The better Graphics Card is: (Cinebench OpenGL)
ION (1,163), GMA 4500 (689).

I'd take better processor over better graphics any day. Why? Processor affects everything including graphics, Graphics only affect graphics.

Notice the was the only one with dedicated graphics card (the ION) compared to the other integrated ones which opt for battery-life not performance.

You NEED to TEST the BATTERY LIFE.

I have a Acer Aspire 4810TG= SU7300, integrated and dedicated graphic, HD 4330 graphics card, 4GB DDR3. It can do Crysis mediocre (35fps) with medium settings, can run “8+ hrs” (my video benchmark was 5hr 49min), is 1.5kg and 14″ size.
My dedicated video card destroys the ION, or ION2 hands-down. SO I've got the best of both worlds. As far as anyone knows, my laptop is top of the line / bleeding edge.
ie The most powerful Laptop you can get for its effeciency. I'd recommend my Laptop for anyone, except for Acer's cheap build-quality (touchy keyboard!!, scratch prone lid)
Sorry, Atom is just not as effecient yesteryear-gen device.

To be honest, I now feel like “Windows benchmarking tool” is accurate enough, all it needs is a battery life included then everyone can buy the best without being confused. BTW computer retailers have now locked away this WinBenchmark on display models as it slows the sale of some stock, they want customers confused.

]]> By: Larry Cover http://liliputing.com/2009/12/culv-ion-or-dual-core-atom-with-ion.html#comment-35883 Larry Cover Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:29:29 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=16067#comment-35883 Hello Brad,<br>Could you benchmark CULV platform doing video encoding ? Could be interesting to compare encoding video performances against best Atom + ion platform.<br>Thanks :) Hello Brad,
Could you benchmark CULV platform doing video encoding ? Could be interesting to compare encoding video performances against best Atom + ion platform.
Thanks :)

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