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	<title>Comments on: Unboxing the Asus O!Play Media Player &#8211; Video</title>
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		<title>By: AY-sus</title>
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		<dc:creator>AY-sus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 05:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The dude is pronouncing it wrong.  Some Asus moron in the US got it wrong, then started everyone pronouncing it incorrectly.  There is a video of a Taiwanese girl explaining how to properly pronounce it.  It is more like AY-sus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The dude is pronouncing it wrong.  Some Asus moron in the US got it wrong, then started everyone pronouncing it incorrectly.  There is a video of a Taiwanese girl explaining how to properly pronounce it.  It is more like AY-sus.</p>
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		<title>By: Fajar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fajar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its possible to use keyboard to navigate? like wd tv live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its possible to use keyboard to navigate? like wd tv live.</p>
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		<title>By: killjoy666</title>
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		<dc:creator>killjoy666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this looks pretty good, just have to wait for the wifi version after all my tv is on 1 floor and pc on other.</description>
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		<title>By: killjoy666</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-31526</link>
		<dc:creator>killjoy666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this looks pretty good, just have to wait for the wifi version after all my tv is on 1 floor and pc on other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this looks pretty good, just have to wait for the wifi version after all my tv is on 1 floor and pc on other.</p>
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		<title>By: wanorris</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanorris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can telnet into it and root has no password? Oops.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great work delving into this stuff. Thanks for all the posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can telnet into it and root has no password? Oops.</p>
<p>Great work delving into this stuff. Thanks for all the posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-30037</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internal firmware didn&#039;t read the manual, it is trying real hard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This impresses me more and more as if it is shipping with a&lt;br&gt;product demonstration kernel that Realtek ships with its&lt;br&gt;development boards -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*Not* a &#039;built for general release&#039; kernel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This may have been a:&lt;br&gt;&quot;get it on the shelves in time for the holidays; we&#039;ll fix it later&quot;&lt;br&gt;sort of development project at ASUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internal firmware didn&#39;t read the manual, it is trying real hard.</p>
<p>This impresses me more and more as if it is shipping with a<br />product demonstration kernel that Realtek ships with its<br />development boards -</p>
<p>*Not* a &#39;built for general release&#39; kernel.</p>
<p>This may have been a:<br />&#8220;get it on the shelves in time for the holidays; we&#39;ll fix it later&#8221;<br />sort of development project at ASUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Linder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked the user manual, and the O!Play only supports USB mass&lt;br&gt;storage devices, not CD/DVD drives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked the user manual, and the O!Play only supports USB mass<br />storage devices, not CD/DVD drives.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29981</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it will read from a *nix system NFS share - -&lt;br&gt;Just not on the on-screen menu.&lt;br&gt;_all_ you need is:&lt;br&gt;1) Knowledge of Linux/Unix&lt;br&gt;2) Knowledge of the ASUStek product details&lt;br&gt;3) Another computer to telnet into the box from&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4) Get lucky in searching the ASUStek support forum&lt;br&gt;for the directions on how to do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These people (ASUStek) really, really, need to hire a Linux consultant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it will read from a *nix system NFS share &#8211; -<br />Just not on the on-screen menu.<br />_all_ you need is:<br />1) Knowledge of Linux/Unix<br />2) Knowledge of the ASUStek product details<br />3) Another computer to telnet into the box from</p>
<p>4) Get lucky in searching the ASUStek support forum<br />for the directions on how to do it.</p>
<p>These people (ASUStek) really, really, need to hire a Linux consultant!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29910</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The http server has a &quot;webtorrent&quot; file in the cgi-bin directory.&lt;br&gt;No hints as to how to make it work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, it does ntfs, fat, ext2/ext3 and several others (MAC formats?).&lt;br&gt;It should also do iso9660 but appears to be broken in the 1.07n firmware build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The http server has a &#8220;webtorrent&#8221; file in the cgi-bin directory.<br />No hints as to how to make it work.</p>
<p>Yes, it does ntfs, fat, ext2/ext3 and several others (MAC formats?).<br />It should also do iso9660 but appears to be broken in the 1.07n firmware build.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29879</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did (again) wore out another keyboard.&lt;br&gt;But as I was posting...&lt;br&gt;Select Linux as the OS in the box.&lt;br&gt;The firmware image now posted is the same one loaded in my machine.&lt;br&gt;Users in the &#039;PAL&#039; area will want to download the &#039;PAL&#039; version of the&lt;br&gt;firmware (the machine I bought came with A/NTSC firmware).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The GPL_Release file *does not* include the kernel source code.&lt;br&gt;Hello?  ASUS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did (again) wore out another keyboard.<br />But as I was posting&#8230;<br />Select Linux as the OS in the box.<br />The firmware image now posted is the same one loaded in my machine.<br />Users in the &#39;PAL&#39; area will want to download the &#39;PAL&#39; version of the<br />firmware (the machine I bought came with A/NTSC firmware).</p>
<p>The GPL_Release file *does not* include the kernel source code.<br />Hello?  ASUS?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29877</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASUS has supporting downloads posted:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://usa.asus.com/Multimedia/Digital_Media_Player/OPlay_HDPR1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=sPkRGUeRr...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;click the &quot;download&quot; tab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASUS has supporting downloads posted:<br /><a href="http://usa.asus.com/Multimedia/Digital_Media_Player/OPlay_HDPR1/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=sPkRGUeRr" rel="nofollow">http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=sPkRGUeRr</a>&#8230;<br />click the &#8220;download&#8221; tab</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29874</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Investigate this one:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/10/icy-box-ib-mp305-multimedia-player-with.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/10/ic...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Same Realtek processor, same Linux kernel -&lt;br&gt;This box has the card readers and wifi mounted.&lt;br&gt;Costs about half again as much as the ASUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investigate this one:<br /><a href="http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/10/icy-box-ib-mp305-multimedia-player-with.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/10/ic" rel="nofollow">http://phonestechnology.blogspot.com/2009/10/ic</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Same Realtek processor, same Linux kernel -<br />This box has the card readers and wifi mounted.<br />Costs about half again as much as the ASUS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/10/unboxing-the-asus-oplay-media-player-video.html#comment-29872</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it isn&#039;t just me then.  I thought that was a rather funky UI&lt;br&gt;but I am not used to using these things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It might suit the end-user who is only familiar with media &lt;br&gt;appliances but people who expect a &quot;computer user interface&quot;&lt;br&gt;are going to be disappointed.&lt;br&gt;I was expecting at least a simplified version of their original&lt;br&gt;EeePC interface.  This box has enough resources to do it easily.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The device does not write an error log that the user can view&lt;br&gt;and of course, none but a hacker will hook up an external&lt;br&gt;console terminal where they can see the error messages.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have captured hours of those console messages to a file I can&lt;br&gt;study so I can say that the kernel build and software image needs&lt;br&gt;a lot more work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For instance:&lt;br&gt;A person buys a &quot;media player&quot; with connections to a USB drive -&lt;br&gt;How many would expect to be able to plug in their external DVD drive -&lt;br&gt;Insert a DVD and watch it?&lt;br&gt;Or an audio CDROM and listen to it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mine will not do that - although it may be &quot;user error&quot; here.&lt;br&gt;According to the error messages, it is just a missing kernel module&lt;br&gt;in the firmware package (oops).&lt;br&gt;If that is the only reason, something ASUS can fix in less than a day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a lot of such things shown in the error logs - the Linus build&lt;br&gt;looks to be not much better than &quot;Working Prototype&quot;.&lt;br&gt;*AND* the box can update its firmware from an ASUS image -&lt;br&gt;so one can hope that ASUS will be posting updates that fix those problems.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are drivers in the build for at least three models of Realtek Wifi&lt;br&gt;chips - plugging in the right USB-Wifi dongle might &quot;just work&quot; -&lt;br&gt;but then again, it might not.  I don&#039;t have one to try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t see any drivers for TV tuners in the image - so I don&#039;t expect my&lt;br&gt;USB-TV tuner to &quot;just work&quot;.  That will take an updated firmware image&lt;br&gt;and probably a lot of work to extend the on-screen menu system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The shipping the device without password protection for the &#039;root&#039; user&lt;br&gt;account (what Linux calls the &#039;administrator&#039;) I consider a serious fault.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;End users will want to be sure that incoming connections to telnet are&lt;br&gt;blocked at their firewall (in your modem/router/gateway/whatever).&lt;br&gt;They will also probably want to block incoming connections to the &lt;br&gt;http server in the box also.&lt;br&gt;But having a http server running in the box opens up the possibility&lt;br&gt;of a web-based interface to your media player - not just on-screen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ASUS did not include any of the iptables stuff (the Linux firewall)&lt;br&gt;in the build.  So although the box has network connectivity, it&lt;br&gt;can not &#039;defend itself&#039; - I consider that another serious fault.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But at least ASUS is consistent, they didn&#039;t do that for the EeePC either.  ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So much for the &quot;insider report&quot; - Brad, you can use any of this information&lt;br&gt;in your &quot;outsider report&quot; .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it isn&#39;t just me then.  I thought that was a rather funky UI<br />but I am not used to using these things.</p>
<p>It might suit the end-user who is only familiar with media <br />appliances but people who expect a &#8220;computer user interface&#8221;<br />are going to be disappointed.<br />I was expecting at least a simplified version of their original<br />EeePC interface.  This box has enough resources to do it easily.</p>
<p>The device does not write an error log that the user can view<br />and of course, none but a hacker will hook up an external<br />console terminal where they can see the error messages.</p>
<p>I have captured hours of those console messages to a file I can<br />study so I can say that the kernel build and software image needs<br />a lot more work.</p>
<p>For instance:<br />A person buys a &#8220;media player&#8221; with connections to a USB drive -<br />How many would expect to be able to plug in their external DVD drive -<br />Insert a DVD and watch it?<br />Or an audio CDROM and listen to it?</p>
<p>Mine will not do that &#8211; although it may be &#8220;user error&#8221; here.<br />According to the error messages, it is just a missing kernel module<br />in the firmware package (oops).<br />If that is the only reason, something ASUS can fix in less than a day.</p>
<p>There are a lot of such things shown in the error logs &#8211; the Linus build<br />looks to be not much better than &#8220;Working Prototype&#8221;.<br />*AND* the box can update its firmware from an ASUS image -<br />so one can hope that ASUS will be posting updates that fix those problems.</p>
<p>There are drivers in the build for at least three models of Realtek Wifi<br />chips &#8211; plugging in the right USB-Wifi dongle might &#8220;just work&#8221; -<br />but then again, it might not.  I don&#39;t have one to try.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t see any drivers for TV tuners in the image &#8211; so I don&#39;t expect my<br />USB-TV tuner to &#8220;just work&#8221;.  That will take an updated firmware image<br />and probably a lot of work to extend the on-screen menu system.</p>
<p>The shipping the device without password protection for the &#39;root&#39; user<br />account (what Linux calls the &#39;administrator&#39;) I consider a serious fault.</p>
<p>End users will want to be sure that incoming connections to telnet are<br />blocked at their firewall (in your modem/router/gateway/whatever).<br />They will also probably want to block incoming connections to the <br />http server in the box also.<br />But having a http server running in the box opens up the possibility<br />of a web-based interface to your media player &#8211; not just on-screen.</p>
<p>ASUS did not include any of the iptables stuff (the Linux firewall)<br />in the build.  So although the box has network connectivity, it<br />can not &#39;defend itself&#39; &#8211; I consider that another serious fault.</p>
<p>But at least ASUS is consistent, they didn&#39;t do that for the EeePC either.  <img src='http://liliputing.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So much for the &#8220;insider report&#8221; &#8211; Brad, you can use any of this information<br />in your &#8220;outsider report&#8221; .</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Linder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got around to plugging it in today. The software interface is OK,&lt;br&gt;and I had no problem streaming some MP3s to the TV in the basement while I&lt;br&gt;was doing some housework today (I haven&#039;t tried any video formats yet), but&lt;br&gt;the UI is absolutely horrible for browsing through large lists of MP3s. It&lt;br&gt;took several minutes of scrolling to find the album I wanted to play... and&lt;br&gt;first you had to sift through all the folders starting with capital letters&lt;br&gt;before you get to the list of folders with lowercase letters.&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s possible that I need to futz with some more settings, but so far it&lt;br&gt;looks like Mikez&#039;s hacking experiences are a bit more pleasant than my&lt;br&gt;experiences with the built in software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got around to plugging it in today. The software interface is OK,<br />and I had no problem streaming some MP3s to the TV in the basement while I<br />was doing some housework today (I haven&#39;t tried any video formats yet), but<br />the UI is absolutely horrible for browsing through large lists of MP3s. It<br />took several minutes of scrolling to find the album I wanted to play&#8230; and<br />first you had to sift through all the folders starting with capital letters<br />before you get to the list of folders with lowercase letters.<br />It&#39;s possible that I need to futz with some more settings, but so far it<br />looks like Mikez&#39;s hacking experiences are a bit more pleasant than my<br />experiences with the built in software.</p>
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		<title>By: kpcrews1</title>
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		<dc:creator>kpcrews1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quick reply.  Just trying to figure out which device is the best bang for my buck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quick reply.  Just trying to figure out which device is the best bang for my buck.</p>
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