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	<title>Comments on: Dual Core NVIDIA Ion still not ready for the HTPC: Flash video problems</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-45928</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Revo 3610 with Ion and it rocks with Flash 10.1.  It has HDMI and optical audio out going to my HDTV.  It plays Hulu desktop great, records 2 HD streams of video OTA(using HDhomerun Tuner) simultaneously using Windows Media Center, and Netflicks.  All silky smooth.  It is half the cost of a Mac mini and the Mac Mini does not have HDMI out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Revo 3610 with Ion and it rocks with Flash 10.1.  It has HDMI and optical audio out going to my HDTV.  It plays Hulu desktop great, records 2 HD streams of video OTA(using HDhomerun Tuner) simultaneously using Windows Media Center, and Netflicks.  All silky smooth.  It is half the cost of a Mac mini and the Mac Mini does not have HDMI out.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-41212</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the Revo 3610 with Ion and it rocks with Flash 10.1.  It has HDMI and optical audio out going to my HDTV.  It plays Hulu desktop great, records 2 HD streams of video OTA(using HDhomerun Tuner) simultaneously using Windows Media Center, and Netflicks.  All silky smooth.  It is half the cost of a Mac mini and the Mac Mini does not have HDMI out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the Revo 3610 with Ion and it rocks with Flash 10.1.  It has HDMI and optical audio out going to my HDTV.  It plays Hulu desktop great, records 2 HD streams of video OTA(using HDhomerun Tuner) simultaneously using Windows Media Center, and Netflicks.  All silky smooth.  It is half the cost of a Mac mini and the Mac Mini does not have HDMI out.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Roberts</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-39786</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good review! I did not see if there is an updated review on this blog. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Update: &lt;br&gt;Now that the Flash Beta 10.1 1p and the newer 10.1 2p and matching Nvidia drivers are out to support Flash GPU acceleration (November 2009), the Ions are rocking with Flash playback via IE, FFOx, Chrome, Hulu Desktop, Move Networks and Boxee Beta. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Got full Revo 3610 Reviews with Flash and other feedback at my blog. Video too. Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good review! I did not see if there is an updated review on this blog. </p>
<p>Update: <br />Now that the Flash Beta 10.1 1p and the newer 10.1 2p and matching Nvidia drivers are out to support Flash GPU acceleration (November 2009), the Ions are rocking with Flash playback via IE, FFOx, Chrome, Hulu Desktop, Move Networks and Boxee Beta. </p>
<p>Got full Revo 3610 Reviews with Flash and other feedback at my blog. Video too. Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: philibuster</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-24119</link>
		<dc:creator>philibuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realize that with the advent of stream computing going mainstream and with directx 11, &quot;graphics&quot; power now directly translates to computing power. This platform includes NVIDIA&#039;s CUDA and will support directx 11&#039;s stream processing API. Find a CUDA-enabled DIVX encoder, and you&#039;re all set. This is the way it ought to be for HTPC usage: low power, quiet, lots of computing power on the graphics side, hardware-accelerated video decoding. Now that silverlight 3 and flash 10 are out with hardware acceleration support, all these web developer boneheads need to enable it in their videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize that with the advent of stream computing going mainstream and with directx 11, &#8220;graphics&#8221; power now directly translates to computing power. This platform includes NVIDIA&#39;s CUDA and will support directx 11&#39;s stream processing API. Find a CUDA-enabled DIVX encoder, and you&#39;re all set. This is the way it ought to be for HTPC usage: low power, quiet, lots of computing power on the graphics side, hardware-accelerated video decoding. Now that silverlight 3 and flash 10 are out with hardware acceleration support, all these web developer boneheads need to enable it in their videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuz</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-21886</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using my single core-Atom/Ion Acer Aspire Revo and I&#039;m not fussed about the hard drive size at all, seeing as I&#039;m gonna stream everything off a Home Server. &#039;Slong as it has enough space for the programs, then I&#039;m fine. And the CPU/GPU pairing on the Revo as it stands is more than enough to play ripped Blu-Ray and HD-DVD films, whether off the local disc or streamed from my main PC (and that&#039;s over G wifi).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And at £250, it&#039;s currently *exactly* half the price of the cheapest Mac Mini. Plus it&#039;s currently attached to the back of my 40&quot; HDTV, so it&#039;s completely invisible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m using my single core-Atom/Ion Acer Aspire Revo and I&#39;m not fussed about the hard drive size at all, seeing as I&#39;m gonna stream everything off a Home Server. &#39;Slong as it has enough space for the programs, then I&#39;m fine. And the CPU/GPU pairing on the Revo as it stands is more than enough to play ripped Blu-Ray and HD-DVD films, whether off the local disc or streamed from my main PC (and that&#39;s over G wifi).</p>
<p>And at £250, it&#39;s currently *exactly* half the price of the cheapest Mac Mini. Plus it&#39;s currently attached to the back of my 40&#8243; HDTV, so it&#39;s completely invisible!</p>
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		<title>By: Fanfoot</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20781</link>
		<dc:creator>Fanfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 06:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One bit of good news on this front is the recent post on jkkmobile about the new Runcore Pro IV SSD.  Apparently dropping this drive in the Dell Mini 10, even with its performance-limited SATA interface, allows it to handle full screen Hulu decode.  So a faster hard drive can be used to resolve the issue for now, if you&#039;re willing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you can live with a SMALL drive in your Media Center PC (odd, I know, and certainly won&#039;t make sense if this machine is going to download torrents or record anything off a tuner), you can get a 32GB drive for around $150 that&#039;ll do the job.  But if you want a bigger drive, then you&#039;d probably be better off starting with a more powerful system to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One bit of good news on this front is the recent post on jkkmobile about the new Runcore Pro IV SSD.  Apparently dropping this drive in the Dell Mini 10, even with its performance-limited SATA interface, allows it to handle full screen Hulu decode.  So a faster hard drive can be used to resolve the issue for now, if you&#39;re willing. </p>
<p>If you can live with a SMALL drive in your Media Center PC (odd, I know, and certainly won&#39;t make sense if this machine is going to download torrents or record anything off a tuner), you can get a 32GB drive for around $150 that&#39;ll do the job.  But if you want a bigger drive, then you&#39;d probably be better off starting with a more powerful system to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Netbook e nettop pronti per l’home theater? - piattaforma NVIDIA Ion, Home Theater PC HTPC, Liliputing, Acer AspireRevo , scheda madre Zotac, AspireRevo - Asus Eee PC</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20739</link>
		<dc:creator>Netbook e nettop pronti per l’home theater? - piattaforma NVIDIA Ion, Home Theater PC HTPC, Liliputing, Acer AspireRevo , scheda madre Zotac, AspireRevo - Asus Eee PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liliputing risponde a questa domanda focalizzando l’attenzione sull’Acer AspireRevo che monta un processore Intel Atom N230 single-core e sulla scheda madre Zotac nella quale è inserito l’Intel Atom N330 dual-core. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Liliputing risponde a questa domanda focalizzando l’attenzione sull’Acer AspireRevo che monta un processore Intel Atom N230 single-core e sulla scheda madre Zotac nella quale è inserito l’Intel Atom N330 dual-core. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20526</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got me on that one...I mixed it up with the Acrobat Reader (which is now up to 40+ MB)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got me on that one&#8230;I mixed it up with the Acrobat Reader (which is now up to 40+ MB)</p>
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		<title>By: erlik</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20513</link>
		<dc:creator>erlik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a known problem playing flash video on the Atom: flash doesn&#039;t support GPU acceleration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The solution is to download the Video locally and play it in VLC as explained here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tech-no-media.com/2009/05/there-is-problem-playing-flash-video-on.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tech-no-media.com/2009/05/there-is-p...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a known problem playing flash video on the Atom: flash doesn&#39;t support GPU acceleration.</p>
<p>The solution is to download the Video locally and play it in VLC as explained here: <a href="http://www.tech-no-media.com/2009/05/there-is-problem-playing-flash-video-on.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tech-no-media.com/2009/05/there-is-p&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Felias</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20508</link>
		<dc:creator>Felias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad i&#039;m living in germany... Here very few people even use browser video streaming :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m just glad i&#39;m living in germany&#8230; Here very few people even use browser video streaming <img src='http://liliputing.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20504</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Flash plugin is 1.8mb:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note that this is for Safari, Firefox, and Opera - I&#039;m not terribly interested in IE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Flash plugin is 1.8mb:</p>
<p><a href="http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/" rel="nofollow">http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/</a></p>
<p>Note that this is for Safari, Firefox, and Opera &#8211; I&#39;m not terribly interested in IE.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20496</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is with Adobe, IMO. Flash has gotten more and more bloated over the years (the current download is 33 MB!!), and less and less stable (it is by far the biggest reported cause of IE crashes I have had), with releases taking longer and longer.  Last I read on their forums, they had a major problem just bumping up to IE7 because the thing was too greedy with memory, and IE7 was refusing to give it the massive pages it requested. My point? Performance is about the last thing on Adobe&#039;s mind when it comes to Flash.  It&#039;s just a damn shame Youtube et al don&#039;t provide Silverlight decoders; from a design standpoint, SL should be an easier move to hardware acceleration, given that it&#039;s based on Win Presentation Foundation (which sits on the DWM, which sits on DirectX)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is with Adobe, IMO. Flash has gotten more and more bloated over the years (the current download is 33 MB!!), and less and less stable (it is by far the biggest reported cause of IE crashes I have had), with releases taking longer and longer.  Last I read on their forums, they had a major problem just bumping up to IE7 because the thing was too greedy with memory, and IE7 was refusing to give it the massive pages it requested. My point? Performance is about the last thing on Adobe&#39;s mind when it comes to Flash.  It&#39;s just a damn shame Youtube et al don&#39;t provide Silverlight decoders; from a design standpoint, SL should be an easier move to hardware acceleration, given that it&#39;s based on Win Presentation Foundation (which sits on the DWM, which sits on DirectX)</p>
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		<title>By: oddone</title>
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		<dc:creator>oddone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s...funny.  We&#039;re betting everything on the GPU now.  I never thought I&#039;d see the day when we were all looking to the video hardware to make our computing desires even *possible*.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sure AMD and NVidia are happy to see this turn of events.  I just hope things get better from here on the software side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s&#8230;funny.  We&#39;re betting everything on the GPU now.  I never thought I&#39;d see the day when we were all looking to the video hardware to make our computing desires even *possible*.</p>
<p>I&#39;m sure AMD and NVidia are happy to see this turn of events.  I just hope things get better from here on the software side.</p>
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		<title>By: BoloMKXXVIII</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20493</link>
		<dc:creator>BoloMKXXVIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a move on Adobe! Fix your problem or someone else&#039;s solution (silverlight/moonlight?) may replace you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a move on Adobe! Fix your problem or someone else&#39;s solution (silverlight/moonlight?) may replace you.</p>
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		<title>By: SBS</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/05/dual-core-nvidia-ion-still-not-ready-for-the-htpc-flash-video-problems.html#comment-20491</link>
		<dc:creator>SBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the problems holding up hardware-acceleration for Flash?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems bizarre, considering the advances we&#039;ve seen this decade in discrete graphics technology along with the online proliferation Flash, that Adobe and Nvidia/ATi haven&#039;t got together and sorted this out yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the problems holding up hardware-acceleration for Flash?</p>
<p>It seems bizarre, considering the advances we&#39;ve seen this decade in discrete graphics technology along with the online proliferation Flash, that Adobe and Nvidia/ATi haven&#39;t got together and sorted this out yet.</p>
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