Comments on: IBM plans to build an Atom-rivaling netbook CPU http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html Compact Computing Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: oddtwo http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-48404 oddtwo Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:27:40 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-48404 *so*<br>*almost*<br>*is*<br>*are*<br>*attempt*<br>*competent*<br><br>needs more *asterisks* *so*
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]]> By: oddtwo http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19213 oddtwo Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:27:40 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19213 *so*<br>*almost*<br>*is*<br>*are*<br>*attempt*<br>*competent*<br><br>needs more *asterisks* *so*
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]]> By: Alex http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19137 Alex Sun, 19 Apr 2009 11:36:18 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19137 I think you have completely misunderstood the announcement. It is about the Common Platform partners coming together to create a new 28nm PROCESS for manufacturing any semiconductor product, not just processors. There is absolutely no information whatsoever in the announcement to make you think that IBM is in any way about to start developing new processors. I think you have completely misunderstood the announcement. It is about the Common Platform partners coming together to create a new 28nm PROCESS for manufacturing any semiconductor product, not just processors. There is absolutely no information whatsoever in the announcement to make you think that IBM is in any way about to start developing new processors.

]]> By: IBMs Antwort auf Atom-kraft kommt 2010 | nDevil http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19122 IBMs Antwort auf Atom-kraft kommt 2010 | nDevil Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:29:01 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19122 [...] Liliputing via NBN Verbreite diesen Artikel: [...] [...] Liliputing via NBN Verbreite diesen Artikel: [...]

]]> By: Linc (MonkeykIng) http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19119 Linc (MonkeykIng) Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:35:59 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19119 The question really becomes not ‘can they’ but rather how much horsepower and for what price. The know how is there to make something better, but it is always going to come down to price, power consumption and processing power. The question really becomes not ‘can they’ but rather how much horsepower and for what price. The know how is there to make something better, but it is always going to come down to price, power consumption and processing power.

]]> By: mitsuo_daisho http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19082 mitsuo_daisho Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:19:03 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19082 I'm pretty sure that the process technology being technology being touted in the press release will be limited primarily to the applications IBM's partners- AMD and SAMSUNG- are associated with: GPU's and Memory Cells. The 28nm process, while certainly going to yield some kick ass products, is still just a half-node or optical shrink of the 32nm lithography. And little indication of any sort of a resurgence of IBM powered personal computing devices. Particularly within the recession economy don't expect to see any R&D spending on consumer chips outside of further CELL development and future game console design wins from MS or Nintendo. After all if they can't afford tea and coffee, I can't see them fielding an entry in a brutally expensive market they've long since retreated from.<br><br><a href="http://layofftracker.blogspot.com/2009/04/ibm-cost-cutting-no-tea-coffee-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://layofftracker.blogspot.com/2009/04/ibm-c...</a> I'm pretty sure that the process technology being technology being touted in the press release will be limited primarily to the applications IBM's partners- AMD and SAMSUNG- are associated with: GPU's and Memory Cells. The 28nm process, while certainly going to yield some kick ass products, is still just a half-node or optical shrink of the 32nm lithography. And little indication of any sort of a resurgence of IBM powered personal computing devices. Particularly within the recession economy don't expect to see any R&D spending on consumer chips outside of further CELL development and future game console design wins from MS or Nintendo. After all if they can't afford tea and coffee, I can't see them fielding an entry in a brutally expensive market they've long since retreated from.

http://layofftracker.blogspot.com/2009/04/ibm-c…

]]> By: oddone http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19079 oddone Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:57:50 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19079 There is *so* much potential here...that I'm going to do my best not to get excited until I read some solid facts.<br><br>But...wow. Low power, more powerful than an atom...with linux I *almost* don't care about what platform, if the price, processing power, and battery life are right.<br><br>And I mean...come on, it's IBM. These will be some quality chips, and will command some of the larger players to partner with them. We could see something based on Power, or Cell, which would pose some interesting coding challenges(SPUs by the bucket are something of a challenge, it seems...).<br><br>It all depends on what this chip actually *is*. Are we looking at something closer to a UMPC? Or a more traditional netbook(Who knows, we may see them ship with HDs larger than 160 gigs...oh be still my heart...)? Could they run Linux? Android? Windows 7? Could it be paired with ION? Could it find its way to more of these Nettop HTPCs, ala Revo and Eeebox 204/6(Where *are* those, btw?!)?<br><br>So many possibilities. I find it hard not to just sit here and dream up a million little boxes, for a million uses...I do think it shows just how bored people are getting with the bog standard netbooks. Almost anything that might change the tune is just eaten up...or I'm just casting my own tech-junkie persona onto others.<br><br>Well, whatever the case, I will *attempt* to not speculate too much. But...but IBM is such a big player, and so bloody *competent* with hardware(Yes VIA, I'm looking at you.)...it's still utterly exciting. There is *so* much potential here…that I'm going to do my best not to get excited until I read some solid facts.

But…wow. Low power, more powerful than an atom…with linux I *almost* don't care about what platform, if the price, processing power, and battery life are right.

And I mean…come on, it's IBM. These will be some quality chips, and will command some of the larger players to partner with them. We could see something based on Power, or Cell, which would pose some interesting coding challenges(SPUs by the bucket are something of a challenge, it seems…).

It all depends on what this chip actually *is*. Are we looking at something closer to a UMPC? Or a more traditional netbook(Who knows, we may see them ship with HDs larger than 160 gigs…oh be still my heart…)? Could they run Linux? Android? Windows 7? Could it be paired with ION? Could it find its way to more of these Nettop HTPCs, ala Revo and Eeebox 204/6(Where *are* those, btw?!)?

So many possibilities. I find it hard not to just sit here and dream up a million little boxes, for a million uses…I do think it shows just how bored people are getting with the bog standard netbooks. Almost anything that might change the tune is just eaten up…or I'm just casting my own tech-junkie persona onto others.

Well, whatever the case, I will *attempt* to not speculate too much. But…but IBM is such a big player, and so bloody *competent* with hardware(Yes VIA, I'm looking at you.)…it's still utterly exciting.

]]> By: TKL http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19065 TKL Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:14:06 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19065 If the netbook market is to close in on the smartphone space, battery life -- and I am talking DAYS of battery life and not hours -- will be the key. For IBM to exploit the 28nm fab process is certainly going in the right direction. If the netbook market is to close in on the smartphone space, battery life — and I am talking DAYS of battery life and not hours — will be the key. For IBM to exploit the 28nm fab process is certainly going in the right direction.

]]> By: IBM produrrà un processore per netbook - 28 nanometri, incremento delle prestazioni pari al 40, consumo energetico inferiore del 20, metà del 2010, Maggiori, Liliputing - Netbook News http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19066 IBM produrrà un processore per netbook - 28 nanometri, incremento delle prestazioni pari al 40, consumo energetico inferiore del 20, metà del 2010, Maggiori, Liliputing - Netbook News Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:31:30 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19066 [...] Liliputing [...] [...] Liliputing [...]

]]> By: BoloMKXXVIII http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19062 BoloMKXXVIII Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:21:16 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19062 Many unknowns.<br><br>How expensive/difficult will it be to produce a chip at the 28 nanometer level?<br><br>What architecture? Do they still have licenses to produce x86 parts? I believe they can make PowerPC and ARM parts.<br><br>What OS would they use if they went PowerPC? There is a linux disto of PowerPC currently available.<br><br>Would they sell it to netbook manufacturers or would one of their "partners" use it (i.e. Apple).<br><br>Go Big Blue! Many unknowns.

How expensive/difficult will it be to produce a chip at the 28 nanometer level?

What architecture? Do they still have licenses to produce x86 parts? I believe they can make PowerPC and ARM parts.

What OS would they use if they went PowerPC? There is a linux disto of PowerPC currently available.

Would they sell it to netbook manufacturers or would one of their “partners” use it (i.e. Apple).

Go Big Blue!

]]> By: brian http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19061 brian Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:10:52 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19061 They should take a shot with an SOC version of CELL. Have the SPUs for ray tracing/3d operations. They should take a shot with an SOC version of CELL. Have the SPUs for ray tracing/3d operations.

]]> By: okeribok http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19060 okeribok Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:01:16 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19060 The G4 and the Atom are close performance-wise. If IBM managed to make a 28nm G4 at 2Ghz, It'd be a very dandy Netbook proc.<br>The G5 was the reason Apple switched to Intel... The G4 and the Atom are close performance-wise. If IBM managed to make a 28nm G4 at 2Ghz, It'd be a very dandy Netbook proc.
The G5 was the reason Apple switched to Intel…

]]> By: Mikez http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19058 Mikez Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:22:14 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19058 IBM has a tremendous amount of design and fabrication experience for silicon devices - -<br>(they still make a lot of their own devices) -<br>If they where to put forth their "best effort" - - No telling what we would see.<br>- - - -<br>And if they wanted to show the world how a GPU should be built. . . IBM has a tremendous amount of design and fabrication experience for silicon devices – -
(they still make a lot of their own devices) -
If they where to put forth their “best effort” – - No telling what we would see.
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And if they wanted to show the world how a GPU should be built. . .

]]> By: Anonymous Coward http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19057 Anonymous Coward Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:58:01 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19057 PowerPC has historicaly been a good platform for laptops... just think about those long lasting 12" Powerbook G4 (4h on a charge, that's over 5 years ago). Sure, the G4 wasn't made by IBM, but I'm sure they have the skills and talent to make something as good, if not better. PowerPC has historicaly been a good platform for laptops… just think about those long lasting 12″ Powerbook G4 (4h on a charge, that's over 5 years ago). Sure, the G4 wasn't made by IBM, but I'm sure they have the skills and talent to make something as good, if not better.

]]> By: IBM arbeitet an 28nm Prozessoren | Netbooknews.de - das Netbook Blog http://liliputing.com/2009/04/ibm-plans-to-build-an-atom-rivaling-netbook-cpu.html#comment-19059 IBM arbeitet an 28nm Prozessoren | Netbooknews.de - das Netbook Blog Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:56:24 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=7629#comment-19059 [...] hier mal wieder ein Auftrag für Infineon zu lauern, was ja auch nicht das Schlechteste wäre. (via liliputing, zur Pressemitteilung von IBM) Bookmarken bei: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where [...] [...] hier mal wieder ein Auftrag für Infineon zu lauern, was ja auch nicht das Schlechteste wäre. (via liliputing, zur Pressemitteilung von IBM) Bookmarken bei: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where [...]

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