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	<title>Comments on: HP launches Pavilion DV2 notebooks with AMD Yukon platform</title>
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		<title>By: ThinkyT</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-48683</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DV2 looks decent but I hate glossy screens and it should be closer to the Samsung NC20 in size.  Dunno why Samsung chose to inflict a glossy screen on the NC20.  From the photo it looks like too much space beside the keyboard on the DV2.  For $699 they have the nerve to only provide a 160GB non SSD hard drive?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still no reason to ditch my 4 yr old ThinkPad T42 running XP Pro even if it is only 1024x768.  My old T42 is 4.5 lbs, thinner than most, and has a removable optical drive which can be replaced with a 2nd battery.  Its probably 4 lbs without it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can get 2 hrs unplugged using WiFi even with my 4 yr old 6 cell (std) battery.  I think a new 9 cell would get me to the 4+ hr mark for $65.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Debated getting a netbook since the processors are just about as powerful as mine but think a 9 cell battery and 320GB HD for my T42 would be a better investment at &lt; $170.  I can partition it to dual boot Linux and maybe triple boot XP Pro, Ubuntu &amp; Windows 7 down the road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I were a frequent flier I may conclude otherwise but a 1lb lighter netbook is not a huge difference in the legal (folder) size bag I carry on mass transit, moving up to 1280x800 resolution is not worth the expense, and moving down to 1024x600 or 1024x576 resolution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How about a Samsung NC10,  Asus 1000HE or Lenovo IdeaPad (w 6 cell) with 1280x800 resolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DV2 looks decent but I hate glossy screens and it should be closer to the Samsung NC20 in size.  Dunno why Samsung chose to inflict a glossy screen on the NC20.  From the photo it looks like too much space beside the keyboard on the DV2.  For $699 they have the nerve to only provide a 160GB non SSD hard drive?</p>
<p>Still no reason to ditch my 4 yr old ThinkPad T42 running XP Pro even if it is only 1024&#215;768.  My old T42 is 4.5 lbs, thinner than most, and has a removable optical drive which can be replaced with a 2nd battery.  Its probably 4 lbs without it.  </p>
<p>I can get 2 hrs unplugged using WiFi even with my 4 yr old 6 cell (std) battery.  I think a new 9 cell would get me to the 4+ hr mark for $65.  </p>
<p>Debated getting a netbook since the processors are just about as powerful as mine but think a 9 cell battery and 320GB HD for my T42 would be a better investment at &lt; $170.  I can partition it to dual boot Linux and maybe triple boot XP Pro, Ubuntu &#038; Windows 7 down the road.</p>
<p>If I were a frequent flier I may conclude otherwise but a 1lb lighter netbook is not a huge difference in the legal (folder) size bag I carry on mass transit, moving up to 1280&#215;800 resolution is not worth the expense, and moving down to 1024&#215;600 or 1024&#215;576 resolution.</p>
<p>How about a Samsung NC10,  Asus 1000HE or Lenovo IdeaPad (w 6 cell) with 1280&#215;800 resolution?</p>
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		<title>By: ThinkyT</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-17247</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DV2 looks decent but I hate glossy screens and it should be closer to the Samsung NC20 in size.  Dunno why Samsung chose to inflict a glossy screen on the NC20.  From the photo it looks like too much space beside the keyboard on the DV2.  For $699 they have the nerve to only provide a 160GB non SSD hard drive?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still no reason to ditch my 4 yr old ThinkPad T42 running XP Pro even if it is only 1024x768.  My old T42 is 4.5 lbs, thinner than most, and has a removable optical drive which can be replaced with a 2nd battery.  Its probably 4 lbs without it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can get 2 hrs unplugged using WiFi even with my 4 yr old 6 cell (std) battery.  I think a new 9 cell would get me to the 4+ hr mark for $65.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Debated getting a netbook since the processors are just about as powerful as mine but think a 9 cell battery and 320GB HD for my T42 would be a better investment at &lt; $170.  I can partition it to dual boot Linux and maybe triple boot XP Pro, Ubuntu &amp; Windows 7 down the road.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I were a frequent flier I may conclude otherwise but a 1lb lighter netbook is not a huge difference in the legal (folder) size bag I carry on mass transit, moving up to 1280x800 resolution is not worth the expense, and moving down to 1024x600 or 1024x576 resolution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How about a Samsung NC10,  Asus 1000HE or Lenovo IdeaPad (w 6 cell) with 1280x800 resolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DV2 looks decent but I hate glossy screens and it should be closer to the Samsung NC20 in size.  Dunno why Samsung chose to inflict a glossy screen on the NC20.  From the photo it looks like too much space beside the keyboard on the DV2.  For $699 they have the nerve to only provide a 160GB non SSD hard drive?</p>
<p>Still no reason to ditch my 4 yr old ThinkPad T42 running XP Pro even if it is only 1024&#215;768.  My old T42 is 4.5 lbs, thinner than most, and has a removable optical drive which can be replaced with a 2nd battery.  Its probably 4 lbs without it.  </p>
<p>I can get 2 hrs unplugged using WiFi even with my 4 yr old 6 cell (std) battery.  I think a new 9 cell would get me to the 4+ hr mark for $65.  </p>
<p>Debated getting a netbook since the processors are just about as powerful as mine but think a 9 cell battery and 320GB HD for my T42 would be a better investment at &lt; $170.  I can partition it to dual boot Linux and maybe triple boot XP Pro, Ubuntu &#038; Windows 7 down the road.</p>
<p>If I were a frequent flier I may conclude otherwise but a 1lb lighter netbook is not a huge difference in the legal (folder) size bag I carry on mass transit, moving up to 1280&#215;800 resolution is not worth the expense, and moving down to 1024&#215;600 or 1024&#215;576 resolution.</p>
<p>How about a Samsung NC10,  Asus 1000HE or Lenovo IdeaPad (w 6 cell) with 1280&#215;800 resolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13565</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like this machine at all. 3.8 lbs is just too much when you can get 13&quot; units with built-in DVD drives and dual-core CPUs for similar money and weight/size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t like this machine at all. 3.8 lbs is just too much when you can get 13&#8243; units with built-in DVD drives and dual-core CPUs for similar money and weight/size.</p>
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		<title>By: diablow</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13297</link>
		<dc:creator>diablow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll get one as soon it is available at local store. 12&quot; is perfect compromise between big notebooks and small-screen netbooks. I don&#039;t need powerfull CPU nor optical drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ll get one as soon it is available at local store. 12&#8243; is perfect compromise between big notebooks and small-screen netbooks. I don&#39;t need powerfull CPU nor optical drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there will be a market for this--it&#039;s nice to see HP finally shave a little more off the weight of their notebooks at this screen size.  4 lbs &amp; &lt; 1&quot; thick makes it a great travel machine.  The price is on the high side for now, but if you give HP a year to let depreciation normalize the market price a little bit (and for the inventory of current models thin out), I think this notebook will become reasonably priced.  For the occasional traveler &amp; other users who don&#039;t regularly use their laptop to playback DVDs &amp; Blu-Rays on the go, this is a great solution.  The graphics card can handle 1080p hardware accelerated HD playback, which means users can still download HD movies/tv shows and play them back on their HDTV in full resolution without majorly impacting processor utilization.  If users really need Blu-Ray @ home for playback on their TV, the required use of an external drive is probably attractive for the tradeoff in notebook portability (the price for an external Blu-Ray drive will drop dramatically this year as well).  The other thing that&#039;s not listed here is that DV2 &amp; DV3 will feature magnesium alloy cases--which means it&#039;ll run cooler &amp; the durability should improve.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DV3, btw, will feature AMD Turion X2 Ultra processors &amp; a slot loading disc drive, which should satisfy the crowd that desires a little more horsepower &amp; the ability to play video on disc where ever they might be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now if HP could just create a better docking station, swap out the grabby trackpad for the sunken and dimpled one they use in their tx2 tablet PC series (or move back to a pad w/ a matte finish), put the pg up/pg down keys above the left/right arrow keys (which would allow the function keys to be full size &amp; put home &amp; end in a more appropriate location), and add a durable anti-glare coating to the glossy screen they insist customers love (man, talk about a headache), they&#039;d have a pretty stellar line well poised for competition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there will be a market for this&#8211;it&#39;s nice to see HP finally shave a little more off the weight of their notebooks at this screen size.  4 lbs &#038; &lt; 1&#8243; thick makes it a great travel machine.  The price is on the high side for now, but if you give HP a year to let depreciation normalize the market price a little bit (and for the inventory of current models thin out), I think this notebook will become reasonably priced.  For the occasional traveler &#038; other users who don&#39;t regularly use their laptop to playback DVDs &#038; Blu-Rays on the go, this is a great solution.  The graphics card can handle 1080p hardware accelerated HD playback, which means users can still download HD movies/tv shows and play them back on their HDTV in full resolution without majorly impacting processor utilization.  If users really need Blu-Ray @ home for playback on their TV, the required use of an external drive is probably attractive for the tradeoff in notebook portability (the price for an external Blu-Ray drive will drop dramatically this year as well).  The other thing that&#39;s not listed here is that DV2 &#038; DV3 will feature magnesium alloy cases&#8211;which means it&#39;ll run cooler &#038; the durability should improve.</p>
<p>DV3, btw, will feature AMD Turion X2 Ultra processors &#038; a slot loading disc drive, which should satisfy the crowd that desires a little more horsepower &#038; the ability to play video on disc where ever they might be.</p>
<p>Now if HP could just create a better docking station, swap out the grabby trackpad for the sunken and dimpled one they use in their tx2 tablet PC series (or move back to a pad w/ a matte finish), put the pg up/pg down keys above the left/right arrow keys (which would allow the function keys to be full size &#038; put home &#038; end in a more appropriate location), and add a durable anti-glare coating to the glossy screen they insist customers love (man, talk about a headache), they&#39;d have a pretty stellar line well poised for competition!</p>
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		<title>By: jake123</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13264</link>
		<dc:creator>jake123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I personally like 12&quot; better than my 10&quot; eee, but I won&#039;t sacrifice battery life to this 30% increase in computing power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I personally like 12&#8243; better than my 10&#8243; eee, but I won&#39;t sacrifice battery life to this 30% increase in computing power.</p>
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		<title>By: likeit</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13243</link>
		<dc:creator>likeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been waiting for a slightly bigger machine with more screen resolution, and these new ones seem like they will fit the bill.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d ditch the Vista for XP pro in a heartbeat! How&#039;s the sound on this thing anyway? Hopefully a little better considering the size. (By the way, how come the sound is so bad on these machines? My kids have nintendo DS&#039;s which are much much smaller, yet have quite acceptable sound ouputs....)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if it doesn&#039;t get 8 hours minimum with a reasonable (over)size battery, it&#039;s a non-starter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been waiting for a slightly bigger machine with more screen resolution, and these new ones seem like they will fit the bill.</p>
<p>I&#39;d ditch the Vista for XP pro in a heartbeat! How&#39;s the sound on this thing anyway? Hopefully a little better considering the size. (By the way, how come the sound is so bad on these machines? My kids have nintendo DS&#39;s which are much much smaller, yet have quite acceptable sound ouputs&#8230;.)</p>
<p>But if it doesn&#39;t get 8 hours minimum with a reasonable (over)size battery, it&#39;s a non-starter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thequinox</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13240</link>
		<dc:creator>thequinox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends, once they start getting that big you start to want an optical drive and some kind of video capabilities...</description>
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		<title>By: BoloMKXXVIII</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-70243</link>
		<dc:creator>BoloMKXXVIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pass. Too big and WAY too expensive. Why would you buy one at that price point? If you are willing to go up to that size you might as well get a traditional laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pass. Too big and WAY too expensive. Why would you buy one at that price point? If you are willing to go up to that size you might as well get a traditional laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: K_ozone</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2009/01/hp-launches-pavilion-dv2-notebooks-with-amd-yukon-platform.html#comment-13239</link>
		<dc:creator>K_ozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kinda chunky and ugly. And I like the new nvidia platform way better.&lt;br&gt;Yup chunky and ugly. Not a mini notebook either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s kinda chunky and ugly. And I like the new nvidia platform way better.<br />Yup chunky and ugly. Not a mini notebook either.</p>
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