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		<title>By: price comparison</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2008/12/could-apple-be-working-on-an-arm-powered-netbook.html#comment-47171</link>
		<dc:creator>price comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly agree with the statement, Apple will soon come up with a ARM powered Laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree with the statement, Apple will soon come up with a ARM powered Laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: price comparison</title>
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		<dc:creator>price comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly agree with the statement, Apple will soon come up with a ARM powered Laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree with the statement, Apple will soon come up with a ARM powered Laptop.</p>
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		<title>By: Offshore Disclosure</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2008/12/could-apple-be-working-on-an-arm-powered-netbook.html#comment-17943</link>
		<dc:creator>Offshore Disclosure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah valid point..Apple never make cheap products..I don&#039;t wanna apple to do this..&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lynamtax.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;follow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Offshore Disclosure&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah valid point..Apple never make cheap products..I don&#39;t wanna apple to do this..<br /><a href="http://www.lynamtax.co.uk" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">Offshore Disclosure</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gambling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gambling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t mind having an Apple netbook. The battery power in my laptop never seems to last as long as I need it to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#39;t mind having an Apple netbook. The battery power in my laptop never seems to last as long as I need it to.</p>
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		<title>By: iddaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>iddaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iddaa, iddaa tahminleri , arm powered notebook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iddaa, iddaa tahminleri , arm powered notebook?</p>
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		<title>By: pc help guide</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2008/12/could-apple-be-working-on-an-arm-powered-netbook.html#comment-11153</link>
		<dc:creator>pc help guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing site! I found your site very interesting.Thanks!Be sure whoever you hire to complete your ELearning development, you receive a wide selection of interaction and assessments. It</description>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cortex-A8 core is available to any who license it. . .&lt;br&gt;The TI OMAP processor (which uses it) is very much alive and well. . .&lt;br&gt;The future is here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before you can view HULU, you will have to port Flash to the chip.&lt;br&gt;Start here to catch up on current progress:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Compile and install on a Beagle-Board (&lt;a href=&quot;http://beagleboard.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beagleboard.org&lt;/a&gt;) and tell&lt;br&gt;us how well you can play HULU and HD DVDs.&lt;br&gt;The Beagle uses what might well be a representative example&lt;br&gt;of any netbook styled processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cortex-A8 core is available to any who license it. . .<br />The TI OMAP processor (which uses it) is very much alive and well. . .<br />The future is here.</p>
<p>Before you can view HULU, you will have to port Flash to the chip.<br />Start here to catch up on current progress:<br /><a href="http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects" rel="nofollow">http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects</a></p>
<p>Compile and install on a Beagle-Board (<a href="http://beagleboard.org" rel="nofollow">beagleboard.org</a>) and tell<br />us how well you can play HULU and HD DVDs.<br />The Beagle uses what might well be a representative example<br />of any netbook styled processor.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevjosco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevjosco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d give an ARM and a leg for an Apple netbook :-D</description>
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		<title>By: Fanfoot</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2008/12/could-apple-be-working-on-an-arm-powered-netbook.html#comment-11095</link>
		<dc:creator>Fanfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That ARM video proves that the new ARM chip can render web pages at reasonable speed.  It DOES NOT prove that at an equivalent frequency that ARM chip would be quicker than the Atom.  For all we know speeding it up wouldn&#039;t change anything, as the web server delivering the page is loaded down or throttled per page.  Or whatever.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, the video shows a pretty simple demo.  Can the chip handle &quot;HD&quot; flash video in order to render Hulu?  Unproven.  Can it play HD content off the disk?  Unproven.  Etc.  We&#039;ll just have to take ARM&#039;s word for it.  The fact that the iPhone and iPod touch still don&#039;t handle Flash video might give all of us pause, but of course this is a future part we&#039;re talking about, so who knows?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally, I&#039;ll take ARM&#039;s word for it.  We&#039;ll see when stuff starts to come out.  Does seem like a possibility though.  I suspect if Apple does go down this path though that it will mean a &quot;locked down&quot; device though, more like an iPhone/iPod touch an an Apple laptop/desktop that can run any software you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That ARM video proves that the new ARM chip can render web pages at reasonable speed.  It DOES NOT prove that at an equivalent frequency that ARM chip would be quicker than the Atom.  For all we know speeding it up wouldn&#39;t change anything, as the web server delivering the page is loaded down or throttled per page.  Or whatever.</p>
<p>Anyway, the video shows a pretty simple demo.  Can the chip handle &#8220;HD&#8221; flash video in order to render Hulu?  Unproven.  Can it play HD content off the disk?  Unproven.  Etc.  We&#39;ll just have to take ARM&#39;s word for it.  The fact that the iPhone and iPod touch still don&#39;t handle Flash video might give all of us pause, but of course this is a future part we&#39;re talking about, so who knows?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#39;ll take ARM&#39;s word for it.  We&#39;ll see when stuff starts to come out.  Does seem like a possibility though.  I suspect if Apple does go down this path though that it will mean a &#8220;locked down&#8221; device though, more like an iPhone/iPod touch an an Apple laptop/desktop that can run any software you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Rustin H. Wright</title>
		<link>http://liliputing.com/2008/12/could-apple-be-working-on-an-arm-powered-netbook.html#comment-11094</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustin H. Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be rude or anything but guys, how many times do we need to be reminded that trying to predict Apple product specs is like betting on horseracing, only less accurate? I was one of the loudest guys out there before the much ballyhooed October press date but only to say what would be good not what would happen. Sorry to be the wet blanket here but, c&#039;mon, let it go. We simply don&#039;t know at all and until the very moment that devices show up in stores, we won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be rude or anything but guys, how many times do we need to be reminded that trying to predict Apple product specs is like betting on horseracing, only less accurate? I was one of the loudest guys out there before the much ballyhooed October press date but only to say what would be good not what would happen. Sorry to be the wet blanket here but, c&#39;mon, let it go. We simply don&#39;t know at all and until the very moment that devices show up in stores, we won&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The downside: if they make it a big iPod, they&#039;ll probably give it that OS and lock it down to allow only software they approve through their own store. I&#039;ll pass on the walled garden thing, thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The interesting thing is that they might integrate 3G, require a data plan, and subsidize the heck out of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It might be a good candidate for loading up an ARM distro on, but if they make it subsidized and tied to 3G, they might not let you. Then again, people hacked iPhones, so why not these?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, all of this is nothing but pure speculation at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The downside: if they make it a big iPod, they&#39;ll probably give it that OS and lock it down to allow only software they approve through their own store. I&#39;ll pass on the walled garden thing, thanks.</p>
<p>The interesting thing is that they might integrate 3G, require a data plan, and subsidize the heck out of it.</p>
<p>It might be a good candidate for loading up an ARM distro on, but if they make it subsidized and tied to 3G, they might not let you. Then again, people hacked iPhones, so why not these?</p>
<p>Of course, all of this is nothing but pure speculation at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see two reasons to give some credibility to this;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, Apple engineers are good thinking outside the box and maybe they&#039;re not first doing something, but they&#039;re first to do it the way it&#039;s meant to be. NETBOOKS need more battery life. Currently only top of the life netbooks with a 6 cell battery deliver +5h of work and that&#039;s the minimum battery a sub-3pounds device should have.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Using an ARM CPU would make this task something really easy. Now, combine this with an amazing OS based on Mac OS X and you&#039;ll have a device that may be underpowered compared to Atom netbooks but is able to do as much as these thanks to an optimized OS, without mentioning an AMAZING battery life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once explored a first reason from a technology perspective, let&#039;s look at an economical reason. An ARM processor costs at least 25 bucks less than an Atom chip; and a custom board should costs say, 5 less than an Atom board. Also, a smaller battery should shave some aditional cost. Based on the price of actual netbooks like the MSI Wind, the BOM of an Apple netbook should be around US$ 300. As is usual with the Apple tax, the rumored price of US$ 599 for an Apple netbook make sense, giving them a 85-90% profit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, an ARM powered Apple netbook makes a lot of sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see two reasons to give some credibility to this;</p>
<p>First, Apple engineers are good thinking outside the box and maybe they&#39;re not first doing something, but they&#39;re first to do it the way it&#39;s meant to be. NETBOOKS need more battery life. Currently only top of the life netbooks with a 6 cell battery deliver +5h of work and that&#39;s the minimum battery a sub-3pounds device should have.</p>
<p>Using an ARM CPU would make this task something really easy. Now, combine this with an amazing OS based on Mac OS X and you&#39;ll have a device that may be underpowered compared to Atom netbooks but is able to do as much as these thanks to an optimized OS, without mentioning an AMAZING battery life.</p>
<p>Once explored a first reason from a technology perspective, let&#39;s look at an economical reason. An ARM processor costs at least 25 bucks less than an Atom chip; and a custom board should costs say, 5 less than an Atom board. Also, a smaller battery should shave some aditional cost. Based on the price of actual netbooks like the MSI Wind, the BOM of an Apple netbook should be around US$ 300. As is usual with the Apple tax, the rumored price of US$ 599 for an Apple netbook make sense, giving them a 85-90% profit.</p>
<p>So, an ARM powered Apple netbook makes a lot of sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: nicfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The closest thing to a netbook that Apple will do is to add to the iPhone a keyboard, I heard from a fanboy I know that netbooks &#039;doesn&#039;t make sense&#039;, &#039;they&#039;re too small to be a laptop and too big to be a PDA&#039;, or &#039;For that price I could get an iPhone and much better &#039;features&#039;&#039;. Stupid brainless dolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The closest thing to a netbook that Apple will do is to add to the iPhone a keyboard, I heard from a fanboy I know that netbooks &#39;doesn&#39;t make sense&#39;, &#39;they&#39;re too small to be a laptop and too big to be a PDA&#39;, or &#39;For that price I could get an iPhone and much better &#39;features&#39;&#39;. Stupid brainless dolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Szabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Szabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple wont make netbooks. Well, cheap ones. Never, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple wont make netbooks. Well, cheap ones. Never, ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, the point - 1.5 watts at full power, with 4 lower power states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the point &#8211; 1.5 watts at full power, with 4 lower power states.</p>
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