Comments on: Can a 12 inch laptop be a netbook? http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html Compact Computing Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chiranjeevi Bhattarai http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-60906 Chiranjeevi Bhattarai Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:04:00 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-60906 This is the great question that you have asked. Actually we can't say a 12 inch notebook as an netbook, because there is come reason why we call a notebook as an notebook and not as netbook. mini notebooks This is the great question that you have asked. Actually we can't say a 12 inch notebook as an netbook, because there is come reason why we call a notebook as an notebook and not as netbook. mini notebooks

]]> By: e-MobileNet http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-46205 e-MobileNet Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:35:21 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-46205 The established definition of a netbook is a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches but usually larger than 7 inches), (usually) small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three pounds/1.3 kilograms) and no optical disk drive. Netbooks are typically low cost, relative to other notebooks.[9]<br><br>The word netbook is a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook.<br><br>There is another category for size between 4 inch and 7 inch called Mobile Internet Device (MID) although many also put this category into netbook.<br><br>e-MobileNet The established definition of a netbook is a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches but usually larger than 7 inches), (usually) small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three pounds/1.3 kilograms) and no optical disk drive. Netbooks are typically low cost, relative to other notebooks.[9]

The word netbook is a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook.

There is another category for size between 4 inch and 7 inch called Mobile Internet Device (MID) although many also put this category into netbook.

e-MobileNet

]]> By: e-MobileNet http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-22644 e-MobileNet Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:35:21 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-22644 The established definition of a netbook is a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches but usually larger than 7 inches), (usually) small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three pounds/1.3 kilograms) and no optical disk drive. Netbooks are typically low cost, relative to other notebooks.[9]<br><br>The word netbook is a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook.<br><br>There is another category for size between 4 inch and 7 inch called Mobile Internet Device (MID) although many also put this category into netbook.<br><br>e-MobileNet The established definition of a netbook is a notebook computer with a low-powered x86-compatible processor (compatible with PC standard software), small screen (no larger than 10 inches but usually larger than 7 inches), (usually) small keyboard, equipped with wireless connectivity, lightweight (under three pounds/1.3 kilograms) and no optical disk drive. Netbooks are typically low cost, relative to other notebooks.[9]

The word netbook is a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook.

There is another category for size between 4 inch and 7 inch called Mobile Internet Device (MID) although many also put this category into netbook.

e-MobileNet

]]> By: Will http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-12988 Will Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:20:52 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-12988 Look, the Libretto U100 was a netbook, but one that could also be used to do some serious graphics, and run apps like CS3, CPP, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, and even 1080 HD video editing software...<br><br>How many netbooks have a firewire port? PCM slot? There you, they are not much good for editing video or making music or even graphics.<br><br>The point is that there are and have been now for years some seriously small computers great for browing the net and doing email, but with some serious juice under the hood. Buying a laptop just to have another one kind of misses the point - you can use a PDA to check your email or even the new iPods.<br><br>A 12 inch laptop around 4 pounds is a netbook, but also more. Its actully a laptop.<br><br>Anything without a duo core these days is just a waste of money - because in a year or two they arent going to be much good for any apps except what your PDA can do.<br><br>10 inches is probably ideal, but for a little more size 12 inch is perfect for the illustrator, artist or someone who doesnt want to burn their eyes out. Look, the Libretto U100 was a netbook, but one that could also be used to do some serious graphics, and run apps like CS3, CPP, Illustrator, Flash, Dreamweaver, and even 1080 HD video editing software…

How many netbooks have a firewire port? PCM slot? There you, they are not much good for editing video or making music or even graphics.

The point is that there are and have been now for years some seriously small computers great for browing the net and doing email, but with some serious juice under the hood. Buying a laptop just to have another one kind of misses the point – you can use a PDA to check your email or even the new iPods.

A 12 inch laptop around 4 pounds is a netbook, but also more. Its actully a laptop.

Anything without a duo core these days is just a waste of money – because in a year or two they arent going to be much good for any apps except what your PDA can do.

10 inches is probably ideal, but for a little more size 12 inch is perfect for the illustrator, artist or someone who doesnt want to burn their eyes out.

]]> By: Fanfoot http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-5643 Fanfoot Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:57:53 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-5643 Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11" screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1" screen with say 1024x768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.<br><br>So I think < 12", and < $500 would be my definitions.<br><br>Except... what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.<br><br>It will be interesting to see this play out. Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11″ screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1″ screen with say 1024×768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.

So I think < 12″, and < $500 would be my definitions.

Except… what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.

It will be interesting to see this play out.

]]> By: Fanfoot http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-5205 Fanfoot Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:57:53 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-5205 Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11" screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1" screen with say 1024x768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.<br><br>So I think < 12", and < $500 would be my definitions.<br><br>Except... what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.<br><br>It will be interesting to see this play out. Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11″ screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1″ screen with say 1024×768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.

So I think < 12″, and < $500 would be my definitions.

Except… what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.

It will be interesting to see this play out.

]]> By: Fanfoot http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-4794 Fanfoot Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:57:53 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-4794 Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11" screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1" screen with say 1024x768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.<br><br>So I think < 12", and < $500 would be my definitions.<br><br>Except... what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.<br><br>It will be interesting to see this play out. Agree with most of this, though I personally would like to see the thick bezels around the screens on a lot of these netbooks get smaller, just like they are starting to around the keyboards. All we really care about is the size of the unit, and if they can put a bigger screen in the same size device for the same price, all the better. So I would probably include 11″ screens in the netbook range, since I can imagine an 11.1″ screen with say 1024×768 or something even a little higher (though in 16:9 format) in a box the size of a Lenovo Ideapad S10.

So I think < 12″, and < $500 would be my definitions.

Except… what if Apple or Sony comes out with a netbook. And its more expensive, but really snazzy. Carved out of aluminum, or made of carbon fiber say. Maybe colorful or with cool designs on the lid. Maybe really really thin, like well under an inch thick at the thickest point. Maybe its got some extra features that might be useful, like dedicated graphics controller so you can decode 1080i video without a hitch. And they charge say $699 for it. Is it a netbook? I assume the answer will be that it is if it becomes popular is is taken up by enough people. It'll be a premium netbook certainly, and all those pretenders that made minor tweaks and tried to charge over $500 will cringe, and then we'll have two categories. One for most people, and one for rich people who love well designed objects.

It will be interesting to see this play out.

]]> By: jayatdell http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-4793 jayatdell Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:27:25 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-4793 Agree that netbook is not a useful term, and it's one Dell doesn't use to describe the Minis.<br><br>Note, too, that XP and Ubuntu versions will be available in December. Agree that netbook is not a useful term, and it's one Dell doesn't use to describe the Minis.

Note, too, that XP and Ubuntu versions will be available in December.

]]> By: Ian Stuart http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-4374 Ian Stuart Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:45:35 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-4374 Absolutely. A 12 inch computer that was priced at $200 and weighs 2 lbs would not be a netbook according to them. Absolutely. A 12 inch computer that was priced at $200 and weighs 2 lbs would not be a netbook according to them.

]]> By: Ian Stuart http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-4201 Ian Stuart Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:45:35 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-4201 Absolutely. A 12 inch computer that was priced at $200 and weighs 2 lbs would not be a netbook according to them. Absolutely. A 12 inch computer that was priced at $200 and weighs 2 lbs would not be a netbook according to them.

]]> By: Netbook or Notebook? It’s Not Only About Size. | CloudAve http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-4177 Netbook or Notebook? It’s Not Only About Size. | CloudAve Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:26:51 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-4177 [...] to a Windows laptop near youWhy Netbooks Will Soon Cost $99Netbooks are just going to get betterCan a 12 inch laptop be a netbook? Posted Under : Analysis Tags bloatware web office windows netbooks notebooks acer asus hp [...] [...] to a Windows laptop near youWhy Netbooks Will Soon Cost $99Netbooks are just going to get betterCan a 12 inch laptop be a netbook? Posted Under : Analysis Tags bloatware web office windows netbooks notebooks acer asus hp [...]

]]> By: MiniMax http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-70146 MiniMax Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:50:00 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-70146 For me a netbook is any thing that is as light as possible to be taken out of house and has as instant internet access as possible. Therefore practically all available netbooks are none in my sense as they are lacking 3G modems. If I can only go online when I have access per WiFi then this is a city book rather than a universal netbook. If it has to stay light 11 - 12 inch displays thererfore probably are the maximum for real portability, they still fit into every standard bag. And for real mobile independence battery power is a must. If these things are down after some two hours or three they do not make it through the day. 6 to 8 hours should be the aim without spoiling a weight of 1,5 KG. For me a netbook is any thing that is as light as possible to be taken out of house and has as instant internet access as possible. Therefore practically all available netbooks are none in my sense as they are lacking 3G modems. If I can only go online when I have access per WiFi then this is a city book rather than a universal netbook.
If it has to stay light 11 – 12 inch displays thererfore probably are the maximum for real portability, they still fit into every standard bag.
And for real mobile independence battery power is a must. If these things are down after some two hours or three they do not make it through the day. 6 to 8 hours should be the aim without spoiling a weight of 1,5 KG.

]]> By: MiniMax http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-70147 MiniMax Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:50:00 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-70147 For me a netbook is any thing that is as light as possible to be taken out of house and has as instant internet access as possible. Therefore practically all available netbooks are none in my sense as they are lacking 3G modems. If I can only go online when I have access per WiFi then this is a city book rather than a universal netbook. If it has to stay light 11 - 12 inch displays thererfore probably are the maximum for real portability, they still fit into every standard bag. And for real mobile independence battery power is a must. If these things are down after some two hours or three they do not make it through the day. 6 to 8 hours should be the aim without spoiling a weight of 1,5 KG. For me a netbook is any thing that is as light as possible to be taken out of house and has as instant internet access as possible. Therefore practically all available netbooks are none in my sense as they are lacking 3G modems. If I can only go online when I have access per WiFi then this is a city book rather than a universal netbook.
If it has to stay light 11 – 12 inch displays thererfore probably are the maximum for real portability, they still fit into every standard bag.
And for real mobile independence battery power is a must. If these things are down after some two hours or three they do not make it through the day. 6 to 8 hours should be the aim without spoiling a weight of 1,5 KG.

]]> By: Anonymous http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-70145 Anonymous Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:40:00 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-70145 Oh yes, and how do I think we're going to help? Good question. If enough blogs and forums subject products, names, policies, etc, to public ridicule, it could trickle up in some cases. Sometimes manufacturers even conduct polls to try to find out what people want before designing products, and then there's always the power of boycott. I think Vista is having a rather short run, in spite of the fact that some might say MS is among the more stubborn and unresponsive corporations. On the other hand, I'd have to admit that Jerry Shen probably wouldn't change the eeePC keyboard if you kidnapped his grandmother :) Oh yes, and how do I think we’re going to help? Good question. If enough blogs and forums subject products, names, policies, etc, to public ridicule, it could trickle up in some cases. Sometimes manufacturers even conduct polls to try to find out what people want before designing products, and then there’s always the power of boycott. I think Vista is having a rather short run, in spite of the fact that some might say MS is among the more stubborn and unresponsive corporations.

On the other hand, I’d have to admit that Jerry Shen probably wouldn’t change the eeePC keyboard if you kidnapped his grandmother :)

]]> By: Avram http://liliputing.com/2008/11/can-a-12-inch-laptop-be-a-netbook.html#comment-70144 Avram Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:10:00 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=2815#comment-70144 It's not at all clear that the Z530 processor is the cause of the slowness (if it's actually slower than an N270 as both have the same clock speed, bus speed, and are Atom designed). I think the issue here has more to do with running Vista on a machine that has a painfully slow hard drive and only 1GB of RAM. It’s not at all clear that the Z530 processor is the cause of the slowness (if it’s actually slower than an N270 as both have the same clock speed, bus speed, and are Atom designed). I think the issue here has more to do with running Vista on a machine that has a painfully slow hard drive and only 1GB of RAM.

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