Comments on: 6 reasons Michael Arrington’s critique of netbooks is wrong http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html Compact Computing Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:26:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tony Scott http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-45599 Tony Scott Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:36:50 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-45599 I agree 100% with your post - currently typing this on an Acer Aspire One in a Wetherspoons in Manchester running on Linux (my netbook - not me!) I agree 100% with your post – currently typing this on an Acer Aspire One in a Wetherspoons in Manchester running on Linux (my netbook – not me!)

]]> By: Tony Scott http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-12558 Tony Scott Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:36:50 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-12558 I agree 100% with your post - currently typing this on an Acer Aspire One in a Wetherspoons in Manchester running on Linux (my netbook - not me!) I agree 100% with your post – currently typing this on an Acer Aspire One in a Wetherspoons in Manchester running on Linux (my netbook – not me!)

]]> By: ceslami http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-12145 ceslami Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:21:11 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-12145 There are also many inherent upsides to buying a netbook versus a normal sized laptop. Portability being the main positive, but also that the gap in performance is shrinking every day, as manufacturers cater towards the smaller netbooks. Read more about the upsides of buying a netbook here. There are also many inherent upsides to buying a netbook versus a normal sized laptop. Portability being the main positive, but also that the gap in performance is shrinking every day, as manufacturers cater towards the smaller netbooks. Read more about the upsides of buying a netbook here.

]]> By: todd http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10451 todd Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:00:20 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10451 >Arrington is simply trying to make a case for a product he's developing, which he >conveniently doesn't mention in his article.<br><br>2 posts in july and one post on Aug.31st and they havent mentioned the 200$ TechCrunch tablet. <br>I'm not going to call it vaporware but its right there...<br><br>Dont get me wrong. I hope he gets it out and its 200$, it will be perfect for bed and the john.<br><br>But you are right, he makes no mention of the tablet which would be a direct competitor to netbooks and many of his observations dont match with what I have seen or tried. (we have an Acer and a Dell mini and played with 7-8 other models so far)<br><br>I love the 9 inch model and the 10 is the perfect maximum size for me but when I first tried the cramped 7inch EEE, I didnt like it. Felt too plasticky.<br><br>A lot of his reasons sound like generic BS we've heard before. With 1GB ram, I havent had problems using Audacity to edit our podcasts nor using Gimp to finetune a few pictures. At the same time that I have text in Open Office open... how much more do I want to do on a netbook? Is it as zippy as my desktop with 4GB ram and dual core? No but I dont expect it to be.<br><br>As for the typing part, I have large meaty fingers but long enough taht I can palm a basketball and while I prefer my brothers 10 inche netbook, I got used to my Dell quickly just like I got used to that curved Microsoft keyboad my wife bought a few years ago. I still hit e3 instead of 3 when I type on it but everything else I got used to pretty quickly. Do I type 50wpd on the netbook? No but I would say Im about 80-90% speed on it which is acceptable.<br><br>Anyways, Arrington's piece seems to be sorely lacking any kind of research on what it out there at the present. >Arrington is simply trying to make a case for a product he's developing, which he >conveniently doesn't mention in his article.

2 posts in july and one post on Aug.31st and they havent mentioned the 200$ TechCrunch tablet.
I'm not going to call it vaporware but its right there…

Dont get me wrong. I hope he gets it out and its 200$, it will be perfect for bed and the john.

But you are right, he makes no mention of the tablet which would be a direct competitor to netbooks and many of his observations dont match with what I have seen or tried. (we have an Acer and a Dell mini and played with 7-8 other models so far)

I love the 9 inch model and the 10 is the perfect maximum size for me but when I first tried the cramped 7inch EEE, I didnt like it. Felt too plasticky.

A lot of his reasons sound like generic BS we've heard before. With 1GB ram, I havent had problems using Audacity to edit our podcasts nor using Gimp to finetune a few pictures. At the same time that I have text in Open Office open… how much more do I want to do on a netbook? Is it as zippy as my desktop with 4GB ram and dual core? No but I dont expect it to be.

As for the typing part, I have large meaty fingers but long enough taht I can palm a basketball and while I prefer my brothers 10 inche netbook, I got used to my Dell quickly just like I got used to that curved Microsoft keyboad my wife bought a few years ago. I still hit e3 instead of 3 when I type on it but everything else I got used to pretty quickly. Do I type 50wpd on the netbook? No but I would say Im about 80-90% speed on it which is acceptable.

Anyways, Arrington's piece seems to be sorely lacking any kind of research on what it out there at the present.

]]> By: Oliver http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10279 Oliver Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:23:38 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10279 I am bit disappointed by that biased techcrunch article as few things are crap when comparing the use of a BB or iPhone with a netbook.<br><br>When surfing the net or checking your mail or viewing video or listening to music on an iPhone, what do you do if someone calls and your battery is suddenly empty ?<br><br>Why would I even want to listen to video's or MP3 sucking lot of juice from the battery on a device I need to be accessible on for incoming calls ?<br><br>With a six cell battery I can work 6hours+ on my AA0 110L with SSD and SDHC card having WLAN on and Opera in full screen mode with Fit to window option and at least 6 tabs open incl thunderbird email client accessing 3 IMAP and 2 POP3 inboxes. Try that with and iPhone or BB Storm.<br><br>As a long time Psion user I waited nearly a decade for a device that had a similar form factor with a good usable keyboard. Maybe I am old fashioned but why would I want to use mouse gestures or two finger pad operations on a touchscreen when I can do it with TAB and ALT <keystroke> in half the time without moving my fingers from the keyboard ? On a laptop with a keyboard that is used for typing you assume people to use the Page down only...why ? I personally rarely use the touchpad. I am bit disappointed by that biased techcrunch article as few things are crap when comparing the use of a BB or iPhone with a netbook.

When surfing the net or checking your mail or viewing video or listening to music on an iPhone, what do you do if someone calls and your battery is suddenly empty ?

Why would I even want to listen to video's or MP3 sucking lot of juice from the battery on a device I need to be accessible on for incoming calls ?

With a six cell battery I can work 6hours+ on my AA0 110L with SSD and SDHC card having WLAN on and Opera in full screen mode with Fit to window option and at least 6 tabs open incl thunderbird email client accessing 3 IMAP and 2 POP3 inboxes. Try that with and iPhone or BB Storm.

As a long time Psion user I waited nearly a decade for a device that had a similar form factor with a good usable keyboard. Maybe I am old fashioned but why would I want to use mouse gestures or two finger pad operations on a touchscreen when I can do it with TAB and ALT <keystroke> in half the time without moving my fingers from the keyboard ? On a laptop with a keyboard that is used for typing you assume people to use the Page down only…why ? I personally rarely use the touchpad.

]]> By: Querystring » Hackit: Netbook haters? http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10251 Querystring » Hackit: Netbook haters? Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:27:47 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10251 [...] that TC post seems to cover are almost impossible to purchase because they’re so outdated. Liliputing rightly states that comparing the browsing experience to the iPhone isn’t worthwhile since [...] [...] that TC post seems to cover are almost impossible to purchase because they’re so outdated. Liliputing rightly states that comparing the browsing experience to the iPhone isn’t worthwhile since [...]

]]> By: Kai http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10131 Kai Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:29:52 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10131 You're right and this guy, besides not doing his research, doesn't know what he's talking about. MOst people want a Ferrari and all they're doing is going to work and back home and occasional trip to the store. An economy class car will suit their needs just fine. Same with computers, we all want a 200 core cpu, but mostly we're surfing the net and word processing. You're right and this guy, besides not doing his research, doesn't know what he's talking about. MOst people want a Ferrari and all they're doing is going to work and back home and occasional trip to the store. An economy class car will suit their needs just fine. Same with computers, we all want a 200 core cpu, but mostly we're surfing the net and word processing.

]]> By: Hackit: Netbook haters? - Hack a Day http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10126 Hackit: Netbook haters? - Hack a Day Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:18:39 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10126 [...] that TC post seems to cover are almost impossible to purchase because they’re so outdated. Liliputing rightly states that comparing the browsing experience to the iPhone isn’t worthwhile since [...] [...] that TC post seems to cover are almost impossible to purchase because they’re so outdated. Liliputing rightly states that comparing the browsing experience to the iPhone isn’t worthwhile since [...]

]]> By: Marco http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10108 Marco Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:36:41 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10108 True as that may be, I personally think this possible bias offsets Arrington's bias, such that both posts balance out and bias doesn't matter too much.<br><br>I'm thinking of getting a nettop, so I bookmarked both for my reference :) True as that may be, I personally think this possible bias offsets Arrington's bias, such that both posts balance out and bias doesn't matter too much.

I'm thinking of getting a nettop, so I bookmarked both for my reference :)

]]> By: EV http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-10092 EV Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:50:36 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-10092 Sascha: Yes Pat Moorhead is probably the most overpaid person in Tech - he is actually costing AMD so much money with his idiotic opinions and out-of-touch attitude towards netbooks. Sascha: Yes Pat Moorhead is probably the most overpaid person in Tech – he is actually costing AMD so much money with his idiotic opinions and out-of-touch attitude towards netbooks.

]]> By: Sascha http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-9977 Sascha Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:32:31 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-9977 Who is Michael Arrington?<br>Maybe i am missing something out but i never ever heard from this guy with anything related to small form factors and mobile computing.<br>After reading his article, i know why. I love the VIA Nano cpu part... and the fact that he is claiming to have a Nano Netbook... What an empty suit!<br><br>Wanna burn some VC money? We should convince Michael to establish a startup together with Pat Moorhead from AMD.<br><br>I would call the company Lidali!<br><br>Living<br>In<br>Denial<br>And<br>Loving<br>It<br><br>Just another PR and bullshitting article.. very weird Who is Michael Arrington?
Maybe i am missing something out but i never ever heard from this guy with anything related to small form factors and mobile computing.
After reading his article, i know why. I love the VIA Nano cpu part… and the fact that he is claiming to have a Nano Netbook… What an empty suit!

Wanna burn some VC money? We should convince Michael to establish a startup together with Pat Moorhead from AMD.

I would call the company Lidali!

Living
In
Denial
And
Loving
It

Just another PR and bullshitting article.. very weird

]]> By: roeroica http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-9805 roeroica Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:54:38 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-9805 Yeah, the keyboard takes just about a day or so to get used to. He probably used it for a few hours and dismissed it. Yeah, the keyboard takes just about a day or so to get used to. He probably used it for a few hours and dismissed it.

]]> By: NeoteriX http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-9797 NeoteriX Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:39:19 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-9797 Why is it that most will not notice or benefit from 2GB in an XP netbook?<br><br>I just installed 2GB in my NC10 and was curious to hear why. Why is it that most will not notice or benefit from 2GB in an XP netbook?

I just installed 2GB in my NC10 and was curious to hear why.

]]> By: Anonymous Coward http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-9763 Anonymous Coward Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:55:07 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-9763 The Atom chip is more than powerful enough to watch 720p video. I watch 720p x264 videos all the time.<br><br>You probably need to download the stand alone versions of those videos and not try to use Flash or Silverlight to watch them in-browser. Both Flash and Silverlight are crap video players and slower than molasses.<br><br>Adobe, and Microsoft cannot write software to save their lives. Instead, they keep Intel busy making faster processors to run their shit software.<br><br>Google "CCCP" and "CoreAVC" to be able to play high def videos on your Atom. The Atom chip is more than powerful enough to watch 720p video. I watch 720p x264 videos all the time.

You probably need to download the stand alone versions of those videos and not try to use Flash or Silverlight to watch them in-browser. Both Flash and Silverlight are crap video players and slower than molasses.

Adobe, and Microsoft cannot write software to save their lives. Instead, they keep Intel busy making faster processors to run their shit software.

Google “CCCP” and “CoreAVC” to be able to play high def videos on your Atom.

]]> By: Mari http://liliputing.com/2008/11/6-reasons-michael-arringtons-critique-of-netbooks-is-wrong.html#comment-9731 Mari Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:18:22 +0000 http://www.liliputing.com/?p=3335#comment-9731 Brad- Brilliant. Thanks for posting a response to TC. You are clearly the expert here. Brad- Brilliant. Thanks for posting a response to TC. You are clearly the expert here.

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